The EU debate - Part III

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Stan said:
I see Zlatan has been continuing with his white supremacist campaign, ably abetted by Kustard.

Zlatan is clearly a religious nut who thinks his god is white but Kustard claims to be non religious (despite his comment in my sig). What motivates an atheist or agnostic to think that whites are superior to other human beings?

Safe bet that this will be answered with the use of the words snowflake and safespace (sic).
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@ZLATAN was easy to slam dunk last night <laugh> The fella is so full of hate, he overlooked glaring mistakes in basic maths, in his ferrel state. And then realising I'd caught him out didnt have the courage to admit his cock up, choosing instead to irrationally defend his bare-faced idiocy. I quite enjoyed putting him straight tbh :)
 
petersaxton said:
A lot. Are you saying that people should give their names so the local ISIS branch can go round and kill them?
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Why should we give it any weight? The whole thing could quite easily be a complete invention.
The media sources are awful and their sources are non-existent.
What's convincing about it, other than it being a message that you agree with?
 
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You are walking down the street and you catch a glimpse of a very tall guy grab a man's wallet and run into a shopping mall. It happened so quickly you didn't remember anything else about him other than he was very tall and he had silver buttons on his shirt. When you go in the mall to look for the thief should you look for very tall people first, or is that unfair on the very many innocent very tall people and should you equally pay attention to very tall and short people to be more fair?
 
Treble said:
@ZLATAN was easy to slam dunk last night <laugh> The fella is so full of hate, he overlooked glaring mistakes in basic maths, in his ferrel state. And then realising I'd caught him out didnt have the courage to admit his cock up, choosing instead to irrationally defend his bare-faced idiocy. I quite enjoyed putting him straight tbh :)
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Zlatan's just lifted the veil. What's different about what he's saying and a lot of the other stuff on here?
He's Nick Griffin to certain other people's Nigel Farage.

Walk around throwing Nazi salutes and calling yourself a white supremacist and everyone will dismiss you.
Put on a suit, say that you're on the side of the working man and the same rhetoric becomes more palatable.
That they're not even on the side of the working man makes it even worse, for me.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
God?
"My belief system doesn’t support a creator as such, as we can call God, who created us in His/Her/Its image." - Morgan Freeman.

Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is a saying that's changed over time.
It's supposed to mean something that's impossible. Think about physically doing it. You can't.

Freeman seems to be under the impression that a lot of successful people are.
They got there, so anyone else that hasn't is to blame for that themselves. I disagree.
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I bet a lot of people would say that disagreeing with a black man is racist.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Zlatan's just lifted the veil. What's different about what he's saying and a lot of the other stuff on here?
He's Nick Griffin to certain other people's Nigel Farage.

Walk around throwing Nazi salutes and calling yourself a white supremacist and everyone will dismiss you.
Put on a suit, say that you're on the side of the working man and the same rhetoric becomes more palatable.
That they're not even on the side of the working man makes it even worse, for me.
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Like I've said before, it's easy to do behind the safety of a keyboard. Put @ZLATAN outside the comfort of his social circle, in the real world - somewhere like Question Time like Griffin and watch him get ridiculed far worse than I did last night. He's too much of a coward to do that though. And he knows it <ok>
 
petersaxton said:
I bet a lot of people would say that disagreeing with a black man is racist.
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No, they wouldn't. You probably read that in the Mail or the Express and have taken it as gospel.
The funny thing is that for a pair of bible thumping papers, they don't act much like Jesus.
Their readers would lock him up and then deport him.
 
Back in the 1980s some students at Goldsmiths did an investigation into stories in the press regarding race.
Some of the stories were how councils banned the words "black bags" for dustman, "black coffee" in rest rooms and nurseries banned "baa baa black sheep" and schools banned "blackboards".
What the students found was that
1) they found no staff who could corroborate a single allegation
2) that schools were moving from blackboards to white boards with pens (as they were cleaner) so staff and kids simply stopped using the word blackboard.
3) that the nurseries mentioned still sang baa baa black sheep
4) people still drank black coffee and called it black coffee
5) bin men still called them black bags ... and had never been told to stop cos they were black and bags.

Yet all of those stories are still considered to be facts 30 years on.
 
remembercolinlee said:
Back in the 1980s some students at Goldsmiths did an investigation into stories in the press regarding race.
Some of the stories were how councils banned the words "black bags" for dustman, "black coffee" in rest rooms and nurseries banned "baa baa black sheep" and schools banned "blackboards".
What the students found was that
1) they found no staff who could corroborate a single allegation
2) that schools were moving from blackboards to white boards with pens (as they were cleaner) so staff and kids simply stopped using the word blackboard.
3) that the nurseries mentioned still sang baa baa black sheep
4) people still drank black coffee and called it black coffee
5) bin men still called them black bags ... and had never been told to stop cos they were black and bags.

Yet all of those stories are still considered to be facts 30 years on.
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Who by?
 
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