Off Topic The Deep State

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Does the Deep State exist?

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Hoddle is a god said:
This is what I don't understand.

We, all of us - me included - denounce the German people that permitted Hitler to rise to power, and it is implicit in our condemnation that we are above the manipulation that we believe the German people were under that permitted that rise, and yet we see obedience to power and corruption, every single day of our lives.

I am not putting myself above anyone in saying any of this, because I am acutely aware of my own complicity in such corruption.

How many of us believe that Blair committed war crimes by lying to Parliament? What the **** have any of us done about it?
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There's a contradiction in what you're saying there imo.

Hitler and the nazi's were a totalitarian organisation in which if you even reported something negative you'd be in prison that afternoon and up in front of a firing squad the next morning. They used fear and hate to seize control and made people believe their misfortunes were as a result of some "outsiders".

Now don't get me wrong, there's plenty of that fear and hate used in politics today.

But at least with Blair millions could and did speak out about it. The population weren't all duped by it and spoke (and marched) against it. Where we were let down, was by people who claimed to be principled that in end succumbed and voted for the war. And it wasn't just Blair, every fcker who voted for it was as guilty as him and has the same blood on their hands.
 
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Suckmyklopp said:
Bilderberg.
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Yep. Set up in 1954, and comprised of former Presidents and other world leaders.

The Freemasons. Founded in 1717, and going strong in every developed country in the world.

Bohemian Grove founded in 1872. Again, comprised of former Presidents and other power world leaders.

Skulls and Bones founded in 1832. Go and look it up.

Then there is The Zodiac Club, The London Gold Fix, the International Order of St Hubertus, and many others.

I know, for a fact, that extra-judicial groups, comprised of judges and other prominent legal figures meet in secret.

Why do they do this? For the benefit of the ordinary man in the street?

Really?
 
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Hoddle is a god said:
Yep. Set up in 1954, and comprised of former Presidents and other world leaders.

The Freemasons. Founded in 1717, and going strong in every developed country in the world.

Bohemian Grove founded in 1872. Again, comprised of former Presidents and other power world leaders.

Skulls and Bones founded in 1832. Go and look it up.

Then there is The Zodiac Club, The London Gold Fix, the International Order of St Hubertus, and many others.

I know, for a fact, that extra-judicial groups, comprised of judges and other prominent legal figures meet in secret.

Why do they do this? For the benefit of the ordinary man in the street?

Really?
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Not just former prime ministers and presidents mate, I think it goes back to John major, of pms whom attended bilderberg meetings and later came to have the big job.

Same of more than a few us presidents and EU officials too

Merkle before becoming euro pm for example I'm sure. Blair too I believe.

I went into ut years ago so it not fresh but the attendance lists are there online to to see.
 
Hoddle is a god said:
Yep. Set up in 1954, and comprised of former Presidents and other world leaders.

The Freemasons. Founded in 1717, and going strong in every developed country in the world.

Bohemian Grove founded in 1872. Again, comprised of former Presidents and other power world leaders.

Skulls and Bones founded in 1832. Go and look it up.

Then there is The Zodiac Club, The London Gold Fix, the International Order of St Hubertus, and many others.

I know, for a fact, that extra-judicial groups, comprised of judges and other prominent legal figures meet in secret.

Why do they do this? For the benefit of the ordinary man in the street?

Really?
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Ahhh this is where it’s going...it’s the only route really...I knew it

im going to give the chopper a once over, you know, just incase

btw I’m a bit of a scholar on skull n bones, bohemian grove n all that interesting jazz...I agree with what you are saying but I’m staying out of this incase our allegiance tarnishes your argument?

cool eh.
 
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Hoddle is a god said:
Yep. Set up in 1954, and comprised of former Presidents and other world leaders.

The Freemasons. Founded in 1717, and going strong in every developed country in the world.

Bohemian Grove founded in 1872. Again, comprised of former Presidents and other power world leaders.

Skulls and Bones founded in 1832. Go and look it up.

Then there is The Zodiac Club, The London Gold Fix, the International Order of St Hubertus, and many others.

I know, for a fact, that extra-judicial groups, comprised of judges and other prominent legal figures meet in secret.

Why do they do this? For the benefit of the ordinary man in the street?

Really?
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This is where I think it goes a bit off. It's why I said they're not clever enough or selfless enough to pull that off. You'd need to be both, with ALL those secret organisations trying to control the world.
 
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