The Allams smc statement

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suttontiger said:
This pains me to say this but no one is deluded to think rugby league is a minority sport in this city - it certainly is not. Pop into my local on a Friday night when Super League is showing and you will see it is extremely popular - certainly more so than a game in the NPC for example.
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...and yet the pubs I generally use don't show it at all and especially not in preference to football, so perhaps your local has most of the TV watchers?

Really, this 'rugby mad' thing is pure media myth perpetuated because the local media spoon feed it out. I truly can't understand why they (mainly FC) need to try to compete with football. If they were realistic, there's far more benefit to be had in working together than there is in competing.
 
suttontiger said:
This pains me to say this but no one is deluded to think rugby league is a minority sport in this city - it certainly is not. Pop into my local on a Friday night when Super League is showing and you will see it is extremely popular - certainly more so than a game in the NPC for example.

Moving back to the matter of the SMC - this organisation was set up as many have said on this board to maintain the fabric of the stadium.

The template for the SMC was made well before we built our shiney new stadium in 2002 and yes the Council were over the moon that having spent £43.5m of capital money from the part sell off of KC they would not then be burdened with an estimated £1m revenue bill for the upkeep of the 'building'

AP was 'happy' to take on the control of the newly set up SMC - weren't pop concerts seen as a way of raising finance to cover the maintenance costs not to mention the profits made from pie and beer sales on matchdays?

Clearly the Allams have been cute on these issues on taking over the ownership of the SMC and the Labour Council have seemingly shot themselves well and truly in the foot with the help of that baffoon Geraghty.

Hopefully it will enable the Allams to get control of the Stadium and develop the land in and around it for whatever purpose and dismiss this ridiculous notion that they will move the Club to a field in Melton ffs.

For those advocating this I suggest you seek the views of Bolton supporters at City's next away game on building the Reebok outside the town of Bolton and halfway down the M61 in Horwich. It may also be worth noting the author of a number of issues of the Football Ground Guide, Simon Inglis, has advocated for some time that the future of new stadia lies within built up areas and not remote out of town sites where access is much more dependent on the private car. Liverpool and Everton have never advocated moving far from Anfield or Goodison (Kirby for example) and their wishes have always been to build in or near Stanley Park.
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I am in favour of melton although I cant see where the finance can come from unless support as i have suggested is fortcoming. With regard to your comments: "...For those advocating this I suggest you seek the views of Bolton supporters at City's next away game on building the Reebok outside the town of Bolton and halfway down the M61 in Horwich.....", maybe you should speak to a few Brighton fans regarding their views on Farmer. They would be at odds with Bolton I am sure
 
Dutch_Mountain_Dog said:
...and yet the pubs I generally use don't show it at all and especially not in preference to football, so perhaps your local has most of the TV watchers?

Really, this 'rugby mad' thing is pure media myth perpetuated because the local media spoon feed it out. I truly can't understand why they (mainly FC) need to try to compete with football. If they were realistic, there's far more benefit to be had in working together than there is in competing.
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the local media consolidate this myth simply because rugby followers, however limited as a proportion of the sports viewing local population, are their market place. that is how they stay in business!!
 
suttontiger said:
This pains me to say this but no one is deluded to think rugby league is a minority sport in this city - it certainly is not. Pop into my local on a Friday night when Super League is showing and you will see it is extremely popular - certainly more so than a game in the NPC for example.

Moving back to the matter of the SMC - this organisation was set up as many have said on this board to maintain the fabric of the stadium.

The template for the SMC was made well before we built our shiney new stadium in 2002 and yes the Council were over the moon that having spent £43.5m of capital money from the part sell off of KC they would not then be burdened with an estimated £1m revenue bill for the upkeep of the 'building'

AP was 'happy' to take on the control of the newly set up SMC - weren't pop concerts seen as a way of raising finance to cover the maintenance costs not to mention the profits made from pie and beer sales on matchdays?

Clearly the Allams have been cute on these issues on taking over the ownership of the SMC and the Labour Council have seemingly shot themselves well and truly in the foot with the help of that baffoon Geraghty.

Hopefully it will enable the Allams to get control of the Stadium and develop the land in and around it for whatever purpose and dismiss this ridiculous notion that they will move the Club to a field in Melton ffs.

For those advocating this I suggest you seek the views of Bolton supporters at City's next away game on building the Reebok outside the town of Bolton and halfway down the M61 in Horwich. It may also be worth noting the author of a number of issues of the Football Ground Guide, Simon Inglis, has advocated for some time that the future of new stadia lies within built up areas and not remote out of town sites where access is much more dependent on the private car. Liverpool and Everton have never advocated moving far from Anfield or Goodison (Kirby for example) and their wishes have always been to build in or near Stanley Park.
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The vast majority of the Trotters fans I come across really like the Reebok. And it isn't half way down the M61, it's about 6 miles from the city centre, about the same distance as The Ketch in Willerby is from Hull City centre, a short hop on a bus.
 
Once the SMC is handed back to the Council, if they take up Ehabs offer,the council will offer to sell it to the Allams because theres no way on earth they will want to foot the bill for the shortfall
 
SuitedandBooted said:
Once the SMC is handed back to the Council, if they take up Ehabs offer,the council will offer to sell it to the Allams because theres no way on earth they will want to foot the bill for the shortfall
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Giving up the SMC to the Council will certainly cause them a financial headache in these particularly difficult and auster times, but even if they do this they will be loathe to sell the KC to the Allams without getting FC and its supporters (and voters) on board.
 
Given the ****wits at the council, it wouldn't suprise me if they're busy in search of a middle easter oil thief to sell the stadium to, just to spite the Allams and the football club.

What's the chances that if the Allams bought Hull FC and ploughed £50 million into them instead, the council would pass the ownership over faster than you could blink with an honorary statue built outside the town hall?
 
suttontiger said:
Giving up the SMC to the Council will certainly cause them a financial headache in these particularly difficult and auster times, but even if they do this they will be loathe to sell the KC to the Allams without getting FC and its supporters (and voters) on board.
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Assem Allam vowed never again to discuss buying the KC with the council anyway.

I believe he wouldn't ever do so unless the current council lost control and a whole new set of people are in place.

I think he felt insulted by Geraghty and his cronies who questioned his motives.
 
Docko said:
Assem Allam vowed never again to discuss buying the KC with the council anyway.

I believe he wouldn't ever do so unless the current council lost control and a whole new set of people are in place.

I think he felt insulted by Geraghty and his cronies who questioned his motives.
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He'll discuss it alright with them if he feels it will be beneficial. Papaa said before Chritsmas in an interview with Burnsy that there was no more money to spend and yet he goes and finds £3.5m for Brady, Meyler and getting the two Egyptian lads on loans.

Lot posturing still to come.
 
John. Walkington. said:
I would think this is already sorted.
I think when it comes to forethought the Allams will show how backward thinking the Hull City Council actually are.
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That backward that the Council had the foresight to build the bleeding KC in the first place. Can't see Parnaby and his cronies having the money to help fund a stadium in the East Riding - they may however go as far as supporting a site for planning so long as its not in the built up area and likely to offend his voters.
 
I'd rather stay in Hull, and i can't be arsed with this moving lark.

Melton's a small place and the residents will whinge having thousands of football fans coming every other week.

The KC will be left to get run down, and you'll all whinge it hasn't been kept in shape by the council. So attracting people to the city will take a nose dive. If not people will stick their noses up at us further.

If FC can't pay their way, then it's them that should **** off not City.
 
Despite it being pointed out several times that Mr Allam doesn't own the food concessions, some FC fans are planning to avoid buying anything in the ground as protest.

I beat them to that protest by about 6 years, but for more logical reasons.
 
mussiesredhat said:
I am in favour of melton although I cant see where the finance can come from unless support as i have suggested is fortcoming. With regard to your comments: "...For those advocating this I suggest you seek the views of Bolton supporters at City's next away game on building the Reebok outside the town of Bolton and halfway down the M61 in Horwich.....", maybe you should speak to a few Brighton fans regarding their views on Farmer. They would be at odds with Bolton I am sure
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One plus for Falmer is that it had an existing railway station right next to it and other transport links because its very close to the University, (although those of us who queued in the pouring rain to get on the Brighton train after the match were not that impressed) Also match tickets include free travel for fans, either bus or train, within a specified area. Does Melton have the possibility of developing similar facilities - from memory there's a station there but does it still function??
 
The FRENCH TICKLER said:
Hardly a distraction from the Tigers PL bid is it ? The national press are hardly jumping on this story either. Football wants rid of all rugby league clubs from grounds and stadiums....dont they ?? <whistle>
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Yeah, you're right I suppose.

I mean it hasn't been on tv, radio or in the papers or anything. It's our little secret, right?

In fact this thread doesn't exist.
 
suttontiger said:
That backward that the Council had the foresight to build the bleeding KC in the first place. Can't see Parnaby and his cronies having the money to help fund a stadium in the East Riding - they may however go as far as supporting a site for planning so long as its not in the built up area and likely to offend his voters.
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No worries.

Just extend the K-U-H boundary to include its outlying villages, and the stadium stays in Hull.:emoticon-0150-hands
 
onceatiger said:
One plus for Falmer is that it had an existing railway station right next to it and other transport links because its very close to the University, (although those of us who queued in the pouring rain to get on the Brighton train after the match were not that impressed) Also match tickets include free travel for fans, either bus or train, within a specified area. Does Melton have the possibility of developing similar facilities - from memory there's a station there but does it still function??
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The plans for Melton had a proposed 'halt', similar to that at Boothferry.

Assem's been very clever here, he's started off looking the vilain, then has rapidly become the saint. He's made the likes of Brady and Geraghty look like imbeciles(not that it was difficult) and now the agenda has grown to cover who pays what and how **** the council are.

I still doubt he stadium will move, but I have no doubt that a major stadium, with a hotel and retail, just five miles out of Hull would receive a massive amount of funding from ERYC. The useless twats at HCC have really fallen into a hole with this one, it might well have got Assem his stadium.
 
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