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I don't expect any significant reduction. Unless the changes are coming from the new owners.

We don't need new owners of the kind being rumoured / mentioned. Any reductions would come from the PL windfall anyway and at no real cost to the owners. Brucies transfer and playing budget would also get a boost.
 
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**The best run club that buyers have seen? **
He's right.

Regardless of the name change etc they will be leaving us with a decent legacy and for all the outrage, the club is well run from a business perspective.

It's Not doing too badly from a football one too.

Indeed so. What Ehab says ** may or may not be true but what matters most IS IF / WHEN they sell the club it goes to decent people. It appears that the so called interested parties are far from being that.

I am more than happy to see the Allams stay as owners for the foreseeable future at least. Things are ticking along very nicely these days. <ok>
 
We have a very valuable and incredibly talented playing squad, all within the shackles of FFP. That suggests the running of the club isn't too bad.

With regards the total debt, more than half of £72m was run up by the previous regime, and ultimately underwritten by the Allams, not written off. We speculated, we accumulated, and despite relegation we're still in a better position both on the pitch and in the books than we were the day Allam took over.

For instance, when the Allams took over, we had over £40m of debts, a winding up order, an no saleable assets with liabilities we couldn't either afford or rid ourselves of taking that debt total higher by the day.

Now, we have £72m of debt (regardless of who it's owed to), but everything is paid on time, we can afford the assets we have, they also have value to an amount which, if we were to sell them all today, we would almost certainly be well below that original figure of £40m, with plenty of surplus to put together a comparable squad to the one we had in December 2010 and still be well below £40m. On top of which we now have the best facilities the club has ever had.

The Allams are ****ers but you can't try and claim the club was better off without them, it's complete bullshit and just makes you look silly.

<applause>:emoticon-0151-skype:emoticon-0151-skype<applause><applause><applause><applause><applause> well said Hattie for once. 99% of ^^^^ this I agree with. FACT. <laugh>
 
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i thought that too.a good piece by mr hat i also agree with you that the allams are our best option.but as long as they keep the name.mr allam could still be seen as a statesman of the city.he just needs to work with people instead of treading all over them

Spot on. Old man Allam is old school and his old school ways don't sit well for many people. My first ever boss had his attitude. My way or the highway. If you don't like something you know where the door is. Whilst I could see what AA was trying to do and his right to do it as owner of the club - he first went about it completely the wrong way and then when the PL revealed the new tv deal he should have just said I don't need to pursue the name change anymore for that reason. Aside from the name change issue I like having the Allams as owners for no other reason than that they are local people and have been good for the club.

We all know that Mr Hat is a wum at the best of times though.
 
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There's nothing made up about the debt level, it's £77,424,697.00 at the last count, it's in the accounts.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04032392/filing-history

It's normal for football clubs to carry a lot of debt and as Hattie says, it's being comfortably covered, so it's not currently an issue. Nor is it an issue that it went in as a loan, it's the only tax efficient way of doing it and as he's looking to exit at some point this year, it will all be sorted one way or another anyway.

He's done a lot of good stuff at the club, it's just a crying shame he persevered with a ridiculous idea and spat his dummy when it failed.
Bit rich accusing him of spitting his dummy all things considered.

I'm still slightly in shock about Hatties post.

He almost completely nailed it.

I'll never ever think of Assem as a ****er, and that's as much to do with the many services some take for granted that wouldn't exist in Hull without him, and I'm not talking about the football either.
 
I'm sick of saying it but it isn't just the name change. That was the tip of the iceberg. They're devious liars. They cheat and manipulate without hesitation. They let the public know exactly what they want them to know but do a lot in secret, usually getting a lackey to do the nasty work for them.

Even ignoring anything else that's gone on, how can anyone trust or take seriously the people who came up with that bloody ballot. That summed up the kind of people they are.

But since they're rich they get away it. Hardly anyone questions the missing votes or the promised report from the 'external' adjudicators which never materialised.

And of course the club calls itself Hull Tigers. Despite claiming to accept the FA decision we still inexplicably have a Facebook page titled Hull Tigers. That's utterly embarrassing and the damage will take years to reverse even once they eventually do go.

But of course I'm just a radical militant hooligan etc etc.
 
I'm sick of saying it but it isn't just the name change. That was the tip of the iceberg. They're devious liars. They cheat and manipulate without hesitation. They let the public know exactly what they want them to know but do a lot in secret, usually getting a lackey to do the nasty work for them.

Even ignoring anything else that's gone on, how can anyone trust or take seriously the people who came up with that bloody ballot. That summed up the kind of people they are.

But since they're rich they get away it. Hardly anyone questions the missing votes or the promised report from the 'external' adjudicators which never materialised.

And of course the club calls itself Hull Tigers. Despite claiming to accept the FA decision we still inexplicably have a Facebook page titled Hull Tigers. That's utterly embarrassing and the damage will take years to reverse even once they eventually do go.

But of course I'm just a radical militant hooligan etc etc.
Not really. You're just a bitter chairman of the Supporters Trust who doesn't seem to want to put all this stuff that seemingly bothers you in a bio on the HCST website. You post nothing but bile and vitriol about them, while thinking they should be prepared to sit down and listen to you.

You also seem quite obsessed with the wealth the Allams have earned over the years, almost bitter about that too. No one else mentions it. Just you. Not sure why you think anyone would trust you, you've really not earned the right for that. The things that benefit us as fans, and those people lucky enough to live in Hull were earned by the Allams and given to the city. What have you given the city?

They've moved on from the Hull Tigers thing now, no one else really cares what the Facebook page is called, aside from the usual angry protesters without a cause. We know which club it is. They're trying to sell the club, but even the fact they want to ensure a good home rather than simply a quick buck doesn't sit well with you.

You need to try moving on too.
 
I'm sick of saying it but it isn't just the name change. That was the tip of the iceberg. They're devious liars. They cheat and manipulate without hesitation. They let the public know exactly what they want them to know but do a lot in secret, usually getting a lackey to do the nasty work for them.

Even ignoring anything else that's gone on, how can anyone trust or take seriously the people who came up with that bloody ballot. That summed up the kind of people they are.

But since they're rich they get away it. Hardly anyone questions the missing votes or the promised report from the 'external' adjudicators which never materialised.

And of course the club calls itself Hull Tigers. Despite claiming to accept the FA decision we still inexplicably have a Facebook page titled Hull Tigers. That's utterly embarrassing and the damage will take years to reverse even once they eventually do go.

But of course I'm just a radical militant hooligan etc etc.
And what difference does it really make having a Facebook page titled Hull Tigers?
 
Not really. You're just a bitter chairman of the Supporters Trust who doesn't seem to want to put all this stuff that seemingly bothers you in a bio on the HCST website. You post nothing but bile and vitriol about them, while thinking they should be prepared to sit down and listen to you.

You also seem quite obsessed with the wealth the Allams have earned over the years, almost bitter about that too. No one else mentions it. Just you. Not sure why you think anyone would trust you, you've really not earned the right for that. The things that benefit us as fans, and those people lucky enough to live in Hull were earned by the Allams and given to the city. What have you given the city?

They've moved on from the Hull Tigers thing now, no one else really cares what the Facebook page is called, aside from the usual angry protesters without a cause. We know which club it is. They're trying to sell the club, but even the fact they want to ensure a good home rather than simply a quick buck doesn't sit well with you.

You need to try moving on too.

Bile and vitriol ffs.

Have a look back at some of your posts aimed at Burnsy for example. For daring to have some inside information. That's vitriol and it's undeserved.

Then have a look at what I've said about the Allams and try and find something unjustified. I believe that lying, cheating ****s should be called just that. Yes, even if they're 'businessmen'.
 
They've moved on from the Hull Tigers thing now, no one else really cares what the Facebook page is called, aside from the usual angry protesters without a cause.

And what difference does it really make having a Facebook page titled Hull Tigers?

Seriously, you two?

We should get Bummers to explain a thing or two about marketing.
 
I'm sick of saying it but it isn't just the name change. That was the tip of the iceberg. They're devious liars. They cheat and manipulate without hesitation. They let the public know exactly what they want them to know but do a lot in secret, usually getting a lackey to do the nasty work for them.

Even ignoring anything else that's gone on, how can anyone trust or take seriously the people who came up with that bloody ballot. That summed up the kind of people they are.

But since they're rich they get away it. Hardly anyone questions the missing votes or the promised report from the 'external' adjudicators which never materialised.

And of course the club calls itself Hull Tigers. Despite claiming to accept the FA decision we still inexplicably have a Facebook page titled Hull Tigers. That's utterly embarrassing and the damage will take years to reverse even once they eventually do go.

But of course I'm just a radical militant hooligan etc etc.
Die when you want :p