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I agree with prehab and I wouldn’t be doing it… BUT I guess the club are balancing that risk with long term reward. They’ll know it’s a risk and think they’re mitigated against it. Big call. I back them even if I don’t agree

Yeah it's a big call. Guess we have to see how it plays out.
 
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Fair points but I think it's a massive risk to let him move on now. We have recruited early but they are unproven , with zero experience in this league.
I agree, I would love Batth to be our rock at the back this coming season and letting him go in my opinion, is as big a risk as not signing a striker last January. But there are a couple of things that suggest letting him go may not be just a football decision.

  • Fishpaste could be spot on (I think he is). We have told Batth that we won’t extend his contract past 2024 and have allowed him to speak to other clubs to give him a bit of security at the end of his career.
  • Our succession planning could mean that we are pretty close to the FFP limits and we need to be mindful of dishing out contracts to players who are less likely to play and prevent us acquiring players who fit in with our long term plans.

I don’t know where we stand now with FFP because we started with a clean sheet on promotion and the latest accounts only cover our final season in League 1, but I do trust the club to project the financial plan and understand where we will stand in years 1, 2 & 3 to make sure we don’t fall foul of FFP.
 
I agree, I would love Batth to be our rock at the back this coming season and letting him go in my opinion, is as big a risk as not signing a striker last January. But there are a couple of things that suggest letting him go may not be just a football decision.

  • Fishpaste could be spot on (I think he is). We have told Batth that we won’t extend his contract past 2024 and have allowed him to speak to other clubs to give him a bit of security at the end of his career.
  • Our succession planning could mean that we are pretty close to the FFP limits and we need to be mindful of dishing out contracts to players who are less likely to play and prevent us acquiring players who fit in with our long term plans.

I don’t know where we stand now with FFP because we started with a clean sheet on promotion and the latest accounts only cover our final season in League 1, but I do trust the club to project the financial plan and understand where we will stand in years 1, 2 & 3 to make sure we don’t fall foul of FFP.
We are now where near FFP limits, not should we be after only 1 year in the championship and a strict wage structure
 
We are now where near FFP limits, not should we be after only 1 year in the championship and a strict wage structure

isn’t the FFP limits only related to growing your own wage amount vs revenue tho, rather than versus others in the league? Basically stops teams from growing too quickly. If we have a strict wage budget it will continue to be unless revenue grows (ie players sold)
 
isn’t the FFP limits only related to growing your own wage amount vs revenue tho, rather than versus others in the league? Basically stops teams from growing too quickly. If we have a strict wage budget it will continue to be unless revenue grows (ie players sold)
The new FFP rules relate wages to turnover. Think it's 2025 when it's strictly limited to 70% of the clubs turnover.

We where miles away from that and losses last season, not reason to think this season is any different.

It's why the commercial side being a mess annoys me as every extra penny we make off the field goes towards the playing budget and off sets ffp costs
 
I don't know where we are with FFP, but I do know the club won't be looking at this year as a stand alone, they will be looking at a projection of the next three years at a minimum.
This is year 2 of the 3 year FFP cycle, so the club will have looked at this cycle, then no doubt have a rough idea where the next 3 year cycle sits imo
 
That's just a positive spin on it. Telling our pots that no contracts will be on offer is literally ditching him. Sort of a political answer from Michael.

Disagree with this, I think it's respectful to let him know where we stand. Gives him the option. He's perfectly welcome to stay with us for the year and try to get signed up somewhere else next summer, but if he's worried about finding a contract in a year's time then we won't stand in his way if he wants to search for a 2-year deal now.
 
isn’t the FFP limits only related to growing your own wage amount vs revenue tho, rather than versus others in the league? Basically stops teams from growing too quickly. If we have a strict wage budget it will continue to be unless revenue grows (ie players sold)
Basically, clubs can make a £13m loss per season and be assessed over 3 seasons. I did hear that it was going to change and be decided on turnover but I'm not sure how that would work but it must be better for us with our fanbase.

https://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php
 
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Disagree with this, I think it's respectful to let him know where we stand. Gives him the option. He's perfectly welcome to stay with us for the year and try to get signed up somewhere else next summer, but if he's worried about finding a contract in a year's time then we won't stand in his way if he wants to search for a 2-year deal now.
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The new FFP rules relate wages to turnover. Think it's 2025 when it's strictly limited to 70% of the clubs turnover.

We where miles away from that and losses last season, not reason to think this season is any different.

It's why the commercial side being a mess annoys me as every extra penny we make off the field goes towards the playing budget and off sets ffp costs
You would think we could increase our turnover significantly with the exposure we had last season and with STID. I once read that Premiership clubs deliberately target the Far East, India and USA markets to increase there turnover.
 
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You would think we could increase our turnover significantly with the exposure we had last season and with STID. I once read that Premiership clubs deliberately target the Far East, India and USA markets to increase their turnover.

Don’t think we sell many shirts abroad. Club signing a deal with a local company kinda scuppered that even if there were demand
 
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