Transfer Rumours Summer window thread

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Bodinki said:
I'm just having you on, and piling in on Arsenal because its fun at the mo. He will probably end up being a decent signing :)
You really need to get rid of Arteta though, I know he is only like 33% of the problem at Arsenal right now but still, with a decent manager, and no European football, you might be able to crack the top 6.
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Yeah, like I said, Arsenal are the banter club right now so we have to expect it. Fair enough, I'd be doing the same if it was any of you ****s :)

And agree about Arteta. I was willing to give him a chance and I'll back him until he's gone. But he looks way out of his depth.
 
Libby said:
Eh? Nobody has matched Pep's spending at City?

Pretty sure United were outspent from Roman onwards too. That's not even getting into his Aberdeen success.

I'm with DH. Different breed.
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Think you both have a point ... around the time that Fergie paid a then world record fee (for a defender) of £33 million for Rio Ferdinand we were shattering our own transfer fee record (for any position) in paying £1.6 million for Matt Elliot <laugh> ... nobody in England had United's overall spending power at that time...

... but your Aberdeen shout is on the money ... to break the old firm's grip was an incredible feat ... although a shout out to Dundee United is also required.

Money doesn't guarantee success, but it certainly gives you a much better chance of achieving AND maintaining it.
 
The thing with Arsenal is, with Lokonga, Tavares, Ramsdale. Ben White and Odegaard, they have spent £130m.
Not sure what their net spend is because I havent looked if they have recouped anything from player sales, but they will have spent £130m and it doesnt look like they have improved their team all that much.

Maybe Ben White will come good, he had a shocker at Brentford, but thats one game so we'll let him off for now. But they still paid over the odds for him imo.
But Ramsdale is a back up keeper, Lokonga is one for the future, And Odegaard they had last year and scored like 2 goals.
Just doesn't really look like astute spending at this point, to me anyway

EDIT: Just looked and the only fee they got so far is for Willock to Newcastle, thats a net spend of around £100m......For Ben White, 2 kids, a guy they had last season who was meh, and a backup keeper....
 
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Treble said:
Only way down deep in the middle of the jungle...
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<laugh>
It was my favourite juice drink as a nipper. My mum used to put the juice boxes in my school lunch box.
I remember Kia Ora as well, and Sunny Delight, though Sunny Delight was ****ing awful, **** tasted radioactive and would glow in the dark. Got outlawed in the UK because kids were turning yellow, iirc
 
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Bodinki said:
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It was my favourite juice drink as a nipper. My mum used to put the juice boxes in my school lunch box.
I remember Kia Ora as well, and Sunny Delight, though Sunny Delight was ****ing awful, **** tasted radioactive and would glow in the dark. Got outlawed in the UK because kids were turning yellow, iirc
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Same <laugh> Kia Ora was the one, happy days.
 
Everybody always points to the deals that Fergie made to win trophies, players who cost us big money, but rarely do we see mentions of the Park Ji-Sung, Van Der Sar, Ole Solskjaer and Javier Hernandez type players he bought, or the Darren Fletcher, Wes Brown, Jonny Evans, Danny Welbeck type players he brought into the side who helped win trophies, and nobody needs to be reminded of Beckham, Scholes, Neville and Giggs who were instrumental in everything he achieved.

Fergie is so far clear of Pep it’s not even close.
 
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Tel said:
Everybody always points to the deals that Fergie made to win trophies, players who cost us big money, but rarely do we see mentions of the Park Ji-Sung, Van Der Sar, Ole Solskjaer and Javier Hernandez type players he bought, or the Darren Fletcher, Wes Brown, Jonny Evans, Danny Welbeck type players he brought into the side who helped win trophies, and nobody needs to be reminded of Beckham, Scholes, Neville and Giggs who were instrumental in everything he achieved.

Fergie is so far clear of Pep it’s not even close.
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That's coz if you'd had a team full of Park, Fletcher, Welbeck types Fergie wouldn't have won anything near what he did.
 
cini65 said:
Might have had some legs if he hadn't been voted player of the season at each of those clubs in both those seasons.
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<laugh>

Mate do you seriously think hes any good?

I don't think hes particularly great at anything. He is the proper definition of bang average. Cant believe you have spunked that money on him
 
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We're forgetting the awesomeness of Kleberson and Djemba Djemba, the player so good, they named him twice!
 
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PINKIE said:
That's coz if you'd had a team full of Park, Fletcher, Welbeck types Fergie wouldn't have won anything near what he did.
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And without them he’d have won far less as well. Those players, especially Park and Fletcher were massively important players.

Deployed against Arsenal in the semi finals of the CL in 2008, Ji Sung Park swiftly ended any dream the Arsenal faithful had of reaching the final, within 8 minutes as he calmly dispatched his chance, then 3 minutes later, BANK BUSTING £12m signing Cristiano Ronaldo nailed their coffin shut with a 50 yard thunderbastard.

GGMU
 
Tel said:
And without them he’d have won far less as well. Those players, especially Park and Fletcher were massively important players.

Deployed against Arsenal in the semi finals of the CL in 2008, Ji Sung Park swiftly ended any dream the Arsenal faithful had of reaching the final, within 8 minutes as he calmly dispatched his chance, then 3 minutes later, BANK BUSTING £12m signing Cristiano Ronaldo nailed their coffin shut with a 50 yard thunderbastard.

GGMU
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You just made me waste 30 seconds looking up what GGMU means.
 
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Big Ern said:
he was doing what Pep does now, except he didn't have as many teams that could match his spending.
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The bloke essentially created a footballing empire at Utd, Ole’s able to live off of it still today. He had a knack of extracting an extra 10% from every player too. Squad players like Park, Fletcher and O’Shea would be capable of putting in monstrous performances in big games when they played. There was an aura around Utd as well in that you felt the game was already lost before a ball was kicked and teams would practically celebrate a draw if they managed it, let alone an even rarer win.

Pep just takes charge of the best teams with either the best players and/ or the biggest resources. Plays a lovely brand of football that you can watch all day long but for me there’s just absolutely levels between the two.

There’ll always be a new Pep once he retires, I doubt we’ll see another Fergie again.
 
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Dier Hard said:
The bloke essentially created a footballing empire at Utd, Ole’s able to live off of it still today. He had a knack of extracting an extra 10% from every player too. Squad players like Park, Fletcher and O’Shea would be capable of putting in monstrous performances in big games when they played. There was an aura around Utd as well in that you felt the game was already lost before a ball was kicked and teams would practically celebrate a draw if they managed it, let alone an even rarer win.

Pep just takes charge of the best teams with either the best players and/ or the biggest resources. Plays a lovely brand of football that you can watch all day long but for me there’s just absolutely levels between the two.

There’ll always be a new Pep once he retires, I doubt we’ll see another Fergie again.
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Aberdeen were ridiculously wealthy when he was there thanks to North Sea Oil, and when he went to United he won nothing for the first 4 years, only after a massive influx of money from their share float so he could break the transfer records each season, did he win anything. And, until Abramovic turned up, no one could match their spending.
 
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BobbyD said:
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Mate do you seriously think hes any good?

I don't think hes particularly great at anything. He is the proper definition of bang average. Cant believe you have spunked that money on him
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No idea. I watch enough boring ****e football with arsenal games that I'm not gonna ever watch ****e like SHU, Burnley, United, Everton or Burnley play too or I'd never be awake.

He could be great, he could be ****e. But winning player of year two years in a row at different clubs surely means there must be a vague glimmer of hope. Which, for arsenal fans, is all we have right now.
 
Dier Hard said:
Yeah different breed he was. ****s all over Pep and the others of this era.
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Tbf though, he took over United at a time when managers were given time to build things. He was a bit lucky that United stuck with him after a dodgy first couple of years iirc. Great manager though, who'll never be surpassed.
 
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