Presumed the left back would be one of the first signings of the window considering Elder been shipped off already.
I wonder if there’s anything in that Mathias Fixelles rumour. Player himself said in an interview he almost joined us in January. He’s a defensive midfielder who plays for Westerlo in the Belgian top flight.
We were trying to sign the Konrad De La Fuente, he is a left winger aged 21 and American, who is owned by Olympique Marseille but was on loan to Greek club Olympiacos (owned by Forest owner Evangelos Marinakis) last season in the last transfer window. The odd thing is, De La Fuente only started 3 league games for Olympiacos last season and he hasn't started a 1st team game since September 2022!!
Only two two Turkish players were signed in the last two seasons and we signed both of them, what does that say about how highly the Turkish league is rated?
The list of Dutch players who've played in the Championship is a fairly long one (and this is just Dutch born players, not all the players who came here from the Eredivisie)...
- Nathan Aké – Reading 2014–15
- Pim Balkestein – Ipswich Town 2008–10
- Nacer Barazite – Derby County 2008–09
- Roy Beerens – Reading 2016–18
- George Boateng – Nottingham Forest 2011–12[b GHA]
- Ferrie Bodde – Swansea City 2008–11
- Jeffrey Bruma – Leicester City 2010–11
- Marciano Bruma – Barnsley 2007–09
- Ellery Cairo – Coventry City 2007–08
- Pelle Clement – Reading 2017–18
- Jurgen Colin – Norwich City 2005–07
- Arnaut Danjuma – Bournemouth 2020–21[b NGA]
- Chris David – Fulham 2014–15
- Edgar Davids – Crystal Palace 2010–11[b SUR–NED]
- Marten de Roon – Middlesbrough 2017–18
- Ed de Goey – Stoke City 2004–06
- Dorus de Vries – Swansea City, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Nottingham Forest 2008–11, 2012–17
- Mark de Vries – Leicester City 2005–07[b SUR–NED]
- Arjan De Zeeuw – Coventry City 2007–08
- Mitchell Dijks – Norwich City 2016–17
- Royston Drenthe – Reading, Sheffield Wednesday 2013–15
- Kyle Ebecilio – Nottingham Forest 2015–16
- Carel Eiting – Huddersfield Town 2020–22
- Anwar El Ghazi – Aston Villa 2018–19
- Abdenasser El Khayati – Queens Park Rangers – 2015–17
- Urby Emanuelson – Sheffield Wednesday 2016–17
- Marvin Emnes – Middlesbrough, Swansea City, Blackburn Rovers 2009–14, 2016–17
- Etienne Esajas – Sheffield Wednesday 2007–10
- Juan Familia-Castillo – Birmingham City 2021–22
- Leroy Fer – Norwich City, Queens Park Rangers, Swansea City 2014–16, 2018–19
- Zian Flemming – Millwall 2022–
- Paul Gladon – Wolverhampton Wanderers 2016–17
- Jay-Roy Grot – Leeds United 2017–18
- Gustavo Hamer – Coventry City 2020–[b BRA]
- Wesley Hoedt – Watford – 2022–
- Ki-Jana Hoever – Stoke City 2022–
- Danny Holla – Brighton & Hove Albion 2014–16
- Jos Hooiveld – Southampton, Norwich City, Millwall 2011–12, 2014–15
- Lex Immers – Cardiff City 2015–17
- Daryl Janmaat – Newcastle United 2016–17
- Collins John – Leicester City, Watford 2007–08[b LBR]
- Ola John – Reading, Wolverhampton Wanderers 2015–17[b LBR]
- Maikel Kieftenbeld – Birmingham City, Millwall 2015–
- Terence Kongolo – Huddersfield Town, Fulham 2019–20[b SUI]
- Tim Krul – Newcastle United, Norwich City 2009–10, 2018–19, 2020–21, 2022–
- Michel Kuipers – Brighton & Hove Albion 2004–05
- Michael Lamey – Leicester City 2010–11
- Glenn Loovens – Cardiff City, Sheffield Wednesday 2005–09, 2013–18
- Ian Maatsen – Coventry City, Burnley 2021–
- Sherjill MacDonald – West Bromwich Albion 2007–08
- Bruno Martins Indi – Stoke City 2018–21[b POR]
- Erwin Mulder – Swansea City 2018–20
- Luciano Narsingh – Swansea City 2018–19
- Joey Pelupessy – Sheffield Wednesday 2017–21
- Erik Pieters – Stoke City 2018–19
- Joël Piroe – Swansea City 2021–
- Stefan Postma – Wolverhampton Wanderers 2005–06
- Berry Powell – Millwall 2005–06
- Iwan Redan – Cardiff City 2006–07
- Karim Rekik – Portsmouth, Blackburn Rovers 2011–13
- Maceo Rigters – Norwich City, Barnsley 2007–09
- Kelle Roos – Rotherham United, Derby County 2015–16, 2018–
- Robbin Ruiter – Sunderland 2017–18
- Jan-Paul Saeijs – Southampton 2008–09
- Marcel Seip – Plymouth Argyle, Blackpool, Sheffield United 2006–10
- Andwélé Slory – West Bromwich Albion 2009–10[b SUR]
- Evander Sno – Bristol City 2009–10
- Pascal Struijk – Leeds United 2019–20[b BEL]
- Mike te Wierik – Derby County 2020–
- Dwight Tiendalli – Middlesbrough 2014–15[b SUR]
- Joost van Aken – Sheffield Wednesday 2017–19, 2020–21
- Joey van den Berg – Reading 2016–18
- Sepp van den Berg – Preston North End 2020–
- Cedric van der Gun – Swansea City 2009–11
- Mike van der Hoorn – Swansea City 2018–20
- Jan Paul van Hecke – Blackburn Rovers 2021–
- Rajiv van La Parra – Wolverhampton Wanders, Brighton & Hove Albion, Huddersfield Town, Middlesbrough 2014–17, 2018–20
- Jos van Nieuwstadt – Doncaster Rovers 2008–09
- Remco van der Schaaf – Burnley 2008–09
- Lars Veldwijk – Nottingham Forest 2014–15
- Michael Verrips – Sheffield United 2021–22
- Kenny Tete – Fulham 2021–
- Yanic Wildschut – Middlesbrough, Wigan Athletic, Norwich City, Cardiff City, Bolton Wanderers 2014–19
- Marvin Zeegelaar – Blackpool 2013–14
- Deyovaisio Zeefuik – Blackburn Rovers 2021–
- Gianni Zuiverloon – West Bromwich Albion, Ipswich Town 2009–11
No, you're talking complete bullshit. In the last 2 years, can you guess how many players Championship clubs have signed from the Eredivisie? 3, and one of those has never played a game in the Championship. That's 4 transfer windows and 30-ish clubs and they've only signed 3 players from the Dutch league in that time. It's the clearest indication that Championship clubs don't think signing players from Holland is a good bet for the style, intensity and physicality of the Championship.
And no, I said there's not a massive difference between the National League and the bottom of L1 (as Stockport look pretty likely to prove on Saturday)
I'm not sure what you're arguing here. I've never said the Turkish League was great, it isn't, nor is it as good as the Dutch League.
I was merely saying that we should centre our recruitment around leagues we know extensively. I thought this was common sense to be honest. Huddersfield had success by exploiting the German 2nd Division as have Norwich, Brentford used the Scandinavian leagues extremely well, and they aren't particularly strong leagues either. The knowledge of the league is probably more important than the overall strength of a league (within reason)
Does owning a Dutch club not count as 'extensive' enough for you?
Fortuna Sittard stills have quite a few Turks still playing for them.
Does owning a Dutch club not count as 'extensive' enough for you?
Not really as the owner shouldn't be identifying players (although I'm sure he did last year)
I’d stop going if that piece of **** became our manager.
6 seperate reported accusations of racist abuse, I’d hope the fan base would be with you.I’d stop going if that piece of **** became our manager.
6 seperate reported accusations of racist abuse, I’d hope the fan base would be with you.
Yep, 3 seperate occasions in his stint in England, the bad press it’d bring would be terrible for us beyond the morale outlook of hiring someone convicted of a hate crimeGot a conviction and suspended sentence for racial abuse didn't he?
Yep, 3 seperate occasions in his stint in England, the bad press it’d bring would be terrible for us beyond the morale outlook of hiring someone convicted of a hate crime
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