Transfer Rumours Summer '22 Transfer Thread

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It's not a great picture but you can see the 8. He did wear that number, mostly in his early day but I think he wore the ten more often.
You can see it quite clearly on this and it's good to watch. Waggy number 8

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I stand corrected, I didn’t start going until 1969, so maybe those numbers weren’t set in stone before that.
 
Any indication as to who these 2 Premier League signings are and when they’ll be done? Was hoping it would be early this week to get them in and involved for Preston.
 
Acun mentioned 2 Prem players plus another from Turkey. I’d wager the one from Turkey is either Pelkas or Ndayishimiye. Başakşehir have already said they received an offer from a club outside Turkey for Ndayishimiye.
 
Any indication as to who these 2 Premier League signings are and when they’ll be done? Was hoping it would be early this week to get them in and involved for Preston.

Attacking midfielder is closer, hoping that to be sorted middle of next week. Defensive player, not heard anything. Dervisoglu talks going well.

Not been given names yet, but told the AM is worth it.
 
Always remember Ken Wagstaff as City's inside right which was number 8. Inside left was Ken Houghton number 10, left wing Ian Butler number eleven. Right wing and always number seven was Ray Henderson. Number 9, centre forward, the great Chris Chilton. That was the 1965/66 team anyhow. Don't see why Waggy would suddenly start lining up at inside left.

I seem to remember him wearing number 10 later Here is one of the times I remember it.They didn’t have all that squad number malarkey they have now.

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Fully agree. When you play the formation we're playing, especially the 532/5212 like yesterday, we need better quality in the wingback position. Im thinking back to Robertson, Brady, Odubajo, Elmohamady etc. Acun definitely had a sniff at a left back in Turkey, the guy that just signed for Rangers I think, so we had the intention to bring someone in.

It's kind of odd to strengthen in every other position except at wingback, especially now with Fleming out for a while and no real cover for Coyle.. hopefully its something we're looking at in the background, although I fear we're happy with Elder & Ally on the left and the kid from the prem we've been linked with can apparently cover at right back..

The irony of what you've just said is that Brady, Odubajo and Elmo were all wingers primarily. Sort of proves that playing wingers who are okay defensively is the way forward
 
Acun mentioned 2 Prem players plus another from Turkey. I’d wager the one from Turkey is either Pelkas or Ndayishimiye. Başakşehir have already said they received an offer from a club outside Turkey for Ndayishimiye.

Suppose if Toast is right and the Premier League N10 is close and ‘worth it’, Pelkas won’t be coming in. Convinced the premier league defender is a full back and Ndayishimiye is the other target to cover 2 roles.
 
I seem to remember him wearing number 10 later Here is one of the times I remember it.They didn’t have all that squad number malarkey they have now.

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Good shout and I remember it well. From memory Ken Houghton reverted to a midfield player under Terry Neill. We went from playing 235 in 1965/66 under Cliff Britton to 442 under Neill.
 
Good shout and I remember it well. From memory Ken Houghton reverted to a midfield player under Terry Neill. We went from playing 235 in 1965/66 under Cliff Britton to 442 under Neill.

As somebody who has watched football for so long, can you explain how 235 worked as a tactic as you saw it? Or if that's not the case, how it didn't work?

I just can't fathom having two defenders and five attackers on the pitch. Was it a fluid formation or simply somehow worked?
 
As somebody who has watched football for so long, can you explain how 235 worked as a tactic as you saw it? Or if that's not the case, how it didn't work?

I just can't fathom having two defenders and five attackers on the pitch. Was it a fluid formation or simply somehow worked?
235 was two fullbacks, three midfielders ( half backs) and five forwards. All five of whom scored double figures for Hull City in 1965/66 when we scored 109 league goals. It worked a treat and the crowds loved it. Trouble was when City got out of the 3rd Div playing that way they had to score three goals to get a draw in the old Div 2. Back in the day I doubt if it was even seen as a tactic, every team lined up that way because that was the way or system the game was played back then. It was Alf Ramsey's England team who won the World Cup in 1966 who were called 'the wingless wonders' and it was he who was one of the pioneers of the 442 system.
 
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Maybe more of a winger, but has Ivan Cavaleiro ever been mentioned? No longer part of Fulham plans, plenty of Championship experience, will know Seri, and is Portuguese.
 
235 was two fullbacks, three midfielders ( half backs) and five forwards. All five of whom scored double figures for Hull City in 1965/66 when we scored 109 league goals. It worked a treat and the crowds loved it. Trouble was when City got out of the 3rd Div playing that way they had to score three goals to get a draw in the old Div 2. Alf Ramsey's England team who won the World Cup in 1966 were called 'the wingless wonders' and it was he who was one of the pioneers of the 442 system.

Interesting, so what prevented the two defenders from being overwhelmed?
 
As somebody who has watched football for so long, can you explain how 235 worked as a tactic as you saw it? Or if that's not the case, how it didn't work?

I just can't fathom having two defenders and five attackers on the pitch. Was it a fluid formation or simply somehow worked?

Football was traditionally played 2 3 5 but started evolving in the 1950s. Though Herbert Chapman started experimenting with what was referred to as a W M system in reference to the way it lined up in the 1930s. That became popular with Italians. Things changed again with Brazil playing a 4 2 4;formation when Pele arrived on the scene in 1958. Ramsey took Ipswich up and then won the First Division in their first ever season it (something which will probably never happen again) by putting a number 9 on a player, I think it was Ray Crawford, who then wandered all over leaving space for others because in those days it was assumed a number 9 was a centre forward and someone was designated to mark them. After that season they were rumbled and they were soon back in Division 2. Ramsey wingless wonders were a way of countering 4 2 4 . Ramsey didn’t pick the best club players, he came up with a system and picked the players he thought would fit that system best. Something too many England managers since have failed to do.
A team trying to play 2 3 5 would be battered now given the fitness and athleticism of the players on the manicured pitches we have now.