Transfer Rumours Summer '22 Transfer Thread

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StubbDave said:
My recollection of the professional and international game is that 424 was introduced from mid 50s eg Brazil 1958 World Cup winners. It gradually changed to 442 as wingers began to adopt a slightly more withdrawn position when not in possession. Ramsey’s change was not to pick wingers at all. Throughout the 60s different teams used their own variations of this. For example City’s 66 team had Simpkin as a second centre back and while Butler was a full on left winger, Henderson or Wilkinson on the right had a more withdraw role. Schoolboy football stayed in the past for quite a while.
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Ian Butler was the most exciting player to watch (for me anyway).
 
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StubbDave said:
My recollection of the professional and international game is that 424 was introduced from mid 50s eg Brazil 1958 World Cup winners. It gradually changed to 442 as wingers began to adopt a slightly more withdrawn position when not in possession. Ramsey’s change was not to pick wingers at all. Throughout the 60s different teams used their own variations of this. For example City’s 66 team had Simpkin as a second centre back and while Butler was a full on left winger, Henderson or Wilkinson on the right had a more withdraw role. Schoolboy football stayed in the past for quite a while.
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Ramsey had wingers in his squad, John Connelly and Terry Paine. Both played in the first game. After a poor performance he dropped Connelly and Paine was injured. A set of circumstances which in the end had a great outcome.
 
Cityzen said:
Ramsey had wingers in his squad, John Connelly and Terry Paine. Both played in the first game. After a poor performance he dropped Connelly and Paine was injured. A set of circumstances which in the end had a great outcome.
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I was always mesmorized by Terry Paines sideburns.
 
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Cityzen said:
It was basically 4 4 2. Ramsey tweaked it after the injury to our greatest goal scorer Greaves and was brave enough to stick to it when it worked. Truth be told we didn’t play well at the start and Ramsey was getting criticised. You would be surprised at how low key everything was up to the final compared to the hysteria that surrounds every international game nowadays no matter how unimportant.
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England played 4-3-3 in '66.
 
Idi Amin said:
**** me...someone start a formation thread.
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Seeing as you want more ...
In 1972, the teacher who ran our school team announced we would be playing three at the back. How's that for being ahead of his time? It was a disaster though. We played 344. That meant that against teams who played 442, as most did, our only centre back was constantly outnumbered. Our problem was that the full backs, of which I was one by that stage, played just the same as they had in a back four so there was a huge space in the middle that one player couldn't cover. We had no coaching about how to play in a three and move as a unit across the pitch. After losing 10-1 in our second match and 5-2 in our third we begged to go back to a four. We did and a place in football's evolutionary history was lost as were almost all of the following matches but by smaller differences. Perhaps it was us and not the system that failed.
 
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Urika Peece. said:
It was in 1965/66, after that and Ramsey wining the World Cup for England it did change with the wingers playing mainly as attacking midfielders. So that was 442. Maybe some of the old un's on here might recall when we first played football at school, for me it was early 60's. It was always 235. Our limited coaching was simply to hoof the ball up field to the forwards. My school teacher was a part of the Hull City Boys set up too ! Tactics were for the Hungarians and Puskas etc, not us, we were told to get stuck in and hoof it as far as we could. Up to us winning the World Cup every team picked two wingers so in effect five forwards. It was a lot simpler game pre 1966.
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We still played 2-3-5 under the same teacher in 1974 mate!!
First season we still played in the old quarter shirts, like Bristol rovers, with a collar on them! They had the stitched on numbers on a white background with the numbers been red I think. They were brilliant old shirts.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
We still played 2-3-5 under the same teacher in 1974 mate!!
First season we still played in the old quarter shirts, like blackburn, with a collar on them! They had the stitched on numbers on a white background with the numbers been red I think. They were brilliant old shirts.
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Bristol Rovers have the quarter shirts, Blackburn Rovers are halves. Brid Central United before re-forming as Brid Town played in black and amber quarters with black shorts which looked great.
 
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Urika Peece. said:
It was in 1965/66, after that and Ramsey wining the World Cup for England it did change with the wingers playing mainly as attacking midfielders. So that was 442. Maybe some of the old un's on here might recall when we first played football at school, for me it was early 60's. It was always 235. Our limited coaching was simply to hoof the ball up field to the forwards. My school teacher was a part of the Hull City Boys set up too ! Tactics were for the Hungarians and Puskas etc, not us, we were told to get stuck in and hoof it as far as we could. Up to us winning the World Cup every team picked two wingers so in effect five forwards. It was a lot simpler game pre 1966.
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Was that Ainthorpe where you were? I played for Anlaby CP in the fifties, and it was 235 then.
 
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