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Transfer Rumours Summer '22 Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Apr 11, 2022.

  1. allowentry

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    If mcgregor had saved the dodgy freekick, if the ref gave a goal kick instead of a corner, all ifs and buts.
     
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    I stand corrected, I didn’t start going until 1969, so maybe those numbers weren’t set in stone before that.
     
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  3. WestStandTiger

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    Any indication as to who these 2 Premier League signings are and when they’ll be done? Was hoping it would be early this week to get them in and involved for Preston.
     
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    We don’t need them now. We’re going to win the league.
     
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  5. Kalman

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    Acun mentioned 2 Prem players plus another from Turkey. I’d wager the one from Turkey is either Pelkas or Ndayishimiye. Başakşehir have already said they received an offer from a club outside Turkey for Ndayishimiye.
     
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  6. Steven Toast

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    Attacking midfielder is closer, hoping that to be sorted middle of next week. Defensive player, not heard anything. Dervisoglu talks going well.

    Not been given names yet, but told the AM is worth it.
     
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    I seem to remember him wearing number 10 later Here is one of the times I remember it.They didn’t have all that squad number malarkey they have now.

     
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    The irony of what you've just said is that Brady, Odubajo and Elmo were all wingers primarily. Sort of proves that playing wingers who are okay defensively is the way forward
     
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    Suppose if Toast is right and the Premier League N10 is close and ‘worth it’, Pelkas won’t be coming in. Convinced the premier league defender is a full back and Ndayishimiye is the other target to cover 2 roles.
     
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  10. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Good shout and I remember it well. From memory Ken Houghton reverted to a midfield player under Terry Neill. We went from playing 235 in 1965/66 under Cliff Britton to 442 under Neill.
     
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  11. Steven Toast

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    As somebody who has watched football for so long, can you explain how 235 worked as a tactic as you saw it? Or if that's not the case, how it didn't work?

    I just can't fathom having two defenders and five attackers on the pitch. Was it a fluid formation or simply somehow worked?
     
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    235 was two fullbacks, three midfielders ( half backs) and five forwards. All five of whom scored double figures for Hull City in 1965/66 when we scored 109 league goals. It worked a treat and the crowds loved it. Trouble was when City got out of the 3rd Div playing that way they had to score three goals to get a draw in the old Div 2. Back in the day I doubt if it was even seen as a tactic, every team lined up that way because that was the way or system the game was played back then. It was Alf Ramsey's England team who won the World Cup in 1966 who were called 'the wingless wonders' and it was he who was one of the pioneers of the 442 system.
     
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    Maybe more of a winger, but has Ivan Cavaleiro ever been mentioned? No longer part of Fulham plans, plenty of Championship experience, will know Seri, and is Portuguese.
     
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    The 10 seems so hard to even suggest a name. Fair few defenders came to mind for the loan but basically none for the 10.
     
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    Interesting, so what prevented the two defenders from being overwhelmed?
     
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    The five forwards scoring goals at the other end often kept the opposing team busy.
     
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    Aaron Ramsey
     
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    He said the AM is worth it
     
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  19. WestStandTiger

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    Welsh one is a free agent and we have no chance.

    Villa one is far too highly rated to be leaving on a permanent to us.
     
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  20. Cityzen

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    Football was traditionally played 2 3 5 but started evolving in the 1950s. Though Herbert Chapman started experimenting with what was referred to as a W M system in reference to the way it lined up in the 1930s. That became popular with Italians. Things changed again with Brazil playing a 4 2 4;formation when Pele arrived on the scene in 1958. Ramsey took Ipswich up and then won the First Division in their first ever season it (something which will probably never happen again) by putting a number 9 on a player, I think it was Ray Crawford, who then wandered all over leaving space for others because in those days it was assumed a number 9 was a centre forward and someone was designated to mark them. After that season they were rumbled and they were soon back in Division 2. Ramsey wingless wonders were a way of countering 4 2 4 . Ramsey didn’t pick the best club players, he came up with a system and picked the players he thought would fit that system best. Something too many England managers since have failed to do.
    A team trying to play 2 3 5 would be battered now given the fitness and athleticism of the players on the manicured pitches we have now.
     
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