Transfer Rumours Summer '22 Transfer Thread

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Steven Toast said:
Right, which like I said, he's within his rights to do. But in terms of football, it's hardly the sign of a good footballing mentality. Most other footballers would go out and find somewhere else to play. Eaves, for example, was told he wouldn't be first choice and was well down the pecking order for next season, so he said "no thanks" and signed for Rotherham. He could have sat in and just earned money, but he opted to go out and play.
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Eaves didn’t have a contract … after June.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Right, which like I said, he's within his rights to do. But in terms of football, it's hardly the sign of a good footballing mentality. Most other footballers would go out and find somewhere else to play. Eaves, for example, was told he wouldn't be first choice and was well down the pecking order for next season, so he said "no thanks" and signed for Rotherham. He could have sat in and just earned money, but he opted to go out and play.
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Eaves had offers from Scotland last summer but chose to stay. McCann confirmed it.

Aren’t you a teacher? Apologies if I’ve confused you for someone else on this board. Teachers get paid their monthly salary over the six week holidays even though they aren’t working. Is that ****ty too? No, because it’s in their contracts as term-time employees.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
It absolutely isn’t ****ty. The club committed to a contract, if they choose not to use him then that is their choice. It is absolutely his right to stay & chase a place in the team, as he is contracted to do. Nothing ****ty about that also.

If the club want to get rid of him then they should pay up the contract, they signed, in full. Nothing ****ty in expecting your employee to pay you your salary.

If club expect him to find a new job for less money without compensating him for his financial losses the that is ****ty.

A contract is a two way thing, signed by both parties. Only ****ty thing is when one party fails to fulfil the obligations they agreed to.
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Yes, I'm not arguing he hasn't got a right to do that. If he doesn't want to go, fine, but he won't be in the team (he's not on mega wages anyway, but that's besides the point) and he isn't going to be "chasing a place" because he couldn't even get into the first team this year, he's got no chance next year. And when his contract is over and he needs a new club, you reckon he'll get a glowing reference from City? He's just making his career more difficult for himself. He'd be better off asking to go out on loan, but I don't think he's even bothered to do that.
 
Steven Toast said:
Yes, I'm not arguing he hasn't got a right to do that. If he doesn't want to go, fine, but he won't be in the team (he's not on mega wages anyway, but that's besides the point) and he isn't going to be "chasing a place" because he couldn't even get into the first team this year, he's got no chance next year. And when his contract is over and he needs a new club, you reckon he'll get a glowing reference from City? He's just making his career more difficult for himself. He'd be better off asking to go out on loan, but I don't think he's even bothered to do that.
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Nothing ****ty about it. He’s doing what he thinks is best for him, not you.
 
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Kalman said:
Eaves had offers from Scotland last summer but chose to stay. McCann confirmed it.

Aren’t you a teacher? Apologies if I’ve confused you for someone else on this board. Teachers get paid their monthly salary over the six week holidays even though they aren’t working. Is that ****ty too? No, because it’s in their contracts as term-time employees.
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Yes he did but Eaves fought his way into the team and played. Unless Moncur suddenly ups his game by a massive amount, he's not going to dislodge the players that are being targeted.

We get paid a salary for the month of August, yeah. But that's not really a decent analogy because that's one month a year. If I was still getting paid as a teacher and not working at all and just turning up and sitting in the staff room, that would be different.
 
Steven Toast said:
Yes he did but Eaves fought his way into the team and played. Unless Moncur suddenly ups his game by a massive amount, he's not going to dislodge the players that are being targeted.

We get paid a salary for the month of August, yeah. But that's not really a decent analogy because that's one month a year. If I was still getting paid as a teacher and not working at all and just turning up and sitting in the staff room, that would be different.
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Moncur isn’t just turning up and sitting in the staff room though, is he? He turns up to training when required. Just because he hasn’t been playing doesn’t mean he isn’t working as per his contract.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Again, not doubting that.
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You seem to have gone from …

“Might have to be paid off, which is ****ty behaviour on his part.”

… to thinking his possible decision to stay & fulfil his contract is actually all within his rights but, in your opinion, would be a poor career move rather than “****ty behaviour”

So we’re actually in agreement that nothing he has done or may do is actually ****ty behaviour, on his part.
 
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pcworks said:
Futbol Arena have a new indepth interview with Tan Kesler on their website at the link below, it is in Turkish'

Original in Turkish link:-
https://www.futbolarena.com/hull-ci...cun-ilicali-buranin-kurtaricisi-oldu-390985h/


I have stuck it through Google website translator.

https://www-futbolarena-com.transla...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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That's a very good interview, I've been impressed with everything I've seen from Tan.

The emphasis on a more attacking/possession style of play is exciting, as is a 250 year lease on the stadium.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Well he’s right, can’t argue with that.
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If he wasn’t turning up to training or taking the piss whilst there then I’d definitely get your point. I think that would be grounds for dismissal without compo in most jobs anyway. I just feel if he’s turning up to training and doing what’s expected of his contract obligations, I can’t really fault him if he wants to continue doing that for a year even if he isn’t knocking on the coach’s door asking for game time. From a fan’s perspective, including my own, he’s deadwood and I think we should sell him but from his perspective, the current arrangement works for him and providing for his family and I can’t knock a bloke for that.

I think Steve Bruce is stealing a living these days as a coach but I still think any club daft enough to hire him should pay out the rest of his contract if and when they sack him.
 
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Kalman said:
If he wasn’t turning up to training or taking the piss whilst there then I’d definitely get your point. I think that would be grounds for dismissal without compo in most jobs anyway. I just feel if he’s turning up to training and doing what’s expected of his contract obligations, I can’t really fault him if he wants to continue doing that for a year even if he isn’t knocking on the coach’s door asking for game time. From a fan’s perspective, including my own, he’s deadwood and I think we should sell him but from his perspective, the current arrangement works for him and providing for his family and I can’t knock a bloke for that.

I think Steve Bruce is stealing a living these days as a coach but I still think any club daft enough to hire him should pay out the rest of his contract if and when they sack him.
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Really thought he was going to call it a day after the **** storm in the North East. Had to give boy wonder his pathway to coaching though
 
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Steven Toast said:
The issue is that there is so much agent talk and deliberation that at this stage it’s pretty much pointless. Many players are still away on holiday.

For what it’s worth, Traore and Allahyar are done, Shota has said he thinks eight is enough including those two, but that’s without any departures.

KLP expected to leave but only if we get the price we want, which is looking very likely indeed. Plans are in place for that happening.I asked about Baxter, club are trying for a permanent but the option of a loan will also be explored if we are rebuffed (not sure how when we’ve got a clause in his loan, maybe that expired). Quality in the forward line is a priority, as well as a number 6 to replace Smallwood and provide competition for Slater. Lad from Fenerbahce seems to be the one we’ve gone for in that regard. Interest in Ylimaz at Lille genuine but not confident as Fenerbahce want him and he is expected to go there. Dwight Gayle also being considered, but wages could be a stopping point.

Expecting bids for Greaves but confident he will stay, if pushed they could make him vice captain as an incentive (Honeyman to be the new captain is what I’ve been told, which is what we all thought anyway.). Another Championship club interested in McLoughlin, also interest in Doc from League One and SPL. Cannon to Stockport seems likely, but interest from former club Rochdale too. A couple of clubs from League One have enquired about Wilks but Shota wants him in the squad, seems determined to give him a chance to prove himself.

It’s going to be a busy window, that’s for sure.
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pcworks said:
Futbol Arena have a new indepth interview with Tan Kesler on their website at the link below, it is in Turkish'

Original in Turkish link:-
https://www.futbolarena.com/hull-ci...cun-ilicali-buranin-kurtaricisi-oldu-390985h/


I have stuck it through Google website translator.

https://www-futbolarena-com.transla...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Thanks for putting this up and translating it. Of course, the translation using google throws up some words which are not exactly the right ones, but one phrase that tickled me was talking about Tom Eaves, which was " he had a weak relationship with the ball"<laugh>.

Very impressed with Tan Kesler, an astute, intelligent and knowledgable guy, who has his head screwed on the right way.
 
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