Transfer Rumours Summer 2024 transfer thread

[askewshair]

Kamara is left footed so potentially he could be LW and Belloumi RW with Millar benched.

Grant’s plan A in the league One winning season was to play two wingers and after 60 minutes, swap them for two off the bench. For that level, we had four good wingers, and it worked. The first two had run out of steam, and it gave everyone plenty of minutes. Very occasionally, Wilkes would play up top for the last half hour.

 

[WSTiger]

Kamara is left footed so potentially he could be LW and Belloumi RW with Millar benched.

Well Kamara is supposed to be able to play as a striker and is 6ft so maybe we will see hime there as well as the wing

 

[Des Head]

Not sure whether Walterball has been dialled down, but I remember the interview with Eddie Howe in the Newcastle friendly where he said it took his players a while to get used to the style City were playing.

I do recall in that game that Pandur was nearly on the half way line at times and Sean McLoughlin found himself in the penalty box from open play.

I can’t say I’ve noticed much of this players swapping roles and playing out of position since the friendlies.

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[PLT]

I think Baz gets a lot of flack that’s underserved but in general I’m not convinced by him as a journalist. He’s continued to ask Walter questions about transfers all summer when Walter from the very beginning has said ‘I’m not going to comment on that’. Either he’s being told to ask these questions by his boss at HDM or he just can’t take a hint.

He's a Hull City reporter. He's hardly going to stop asking about Hull City transfers during the transfer window because the manager doesn't want him to. People would soon complain that he wasn't doing his job if he did that, and rightly so. Every football manager deals with this. In Tim's case, it perhaps doesn't help that he's not very consistent about it. Sometimes he does his playful wink thing and other times he kicks off about being asked.

City fans always seem to want to be mad at the local media, I've never understood it.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Some of the moaning on here about players reasonably expecting the odd day off is downright embarrassing. Bernardo Silva recently spoke about the volume of football matches getting ridiculous and the same people on here would probably laugh at him. No matter how much you earn or what you do you still deserve normal work conditions.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

He's a Hull City reporter. He's hardly going to stop asking about Hull City transfers during the transfer window because the manager doesn't want him to. People would soon complain that he wasn't doing his job if he did that, and rightly so. Every football manager deals with this. In Tim's case, it perhaps doesn't help that he's not very consistent about it. Sometimes he does his playful wink thing and other times he kicks off about being asked.

City fans always seem to want to be mad at the local media, I've never understood it.

He's either a happy clapper sucking up to acun or a pessimistic clueless twat. Bloke can't win. All he's said is he's not convinced by Walter yet and surely no one can be?

 

[NewcastleTiger]

He's either a happy clapper sucking up to acun or a pessimistic clueless twat. Bloke can't win. All he's said is he's not convinced by Walter yet and surely no one can be?

He never adds context though.

 

[PLT]

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I think it was fair to say there has been noticeably less of it since that game. Macca still goes up front at times, but it's not been as extreme as that Newcastle game. Perhaps because we've not had as much of the ball, or perhaps because it's been dialled down a bit until we get our squad together and stuff. The fact we went unbeaten in those first three despite not looking great maybe vindicates that sort of approach.

 

[NewcastleTiger]

I think it was fair to say there has been noticeably less of it since that game. Macca still goes up front at times, but it's not been as extreme as that Newcastle game. Perhaps because we've not had as much of the ball, or perhaps because it's been dialled down a bit until we get our squad together and stuff. The fact we went unbeaten in those first three despite not looking great maybe vindicates that sort of approach.

I think our draw and clean sheet against Millwall is a really underrated result looking at their goals scored so far

 

[SydneyTiger14]

He never adds context though.

What context would you like him to say that isn't quite obvious (that a lot of the players are still settling in)? All he's said is he's seen nothing to be convinced by, which quite a few of us have also said. The XI he has been putting out has by and large played a decent chunk of pre-season and either they haven't shown that they're up to it or Walter needs to tweak things.

 

[NewcastleTiger]

What context would you like him to say that isn't quite obvious (that a lot of the players are still settling in)? All he's said is he's seen nothing to be convinced by, which quite a few of us have also said. The XI he has been putting out has by and large played a decent chunk of pre-season and either they haven't shown that they're up to it or Walter needs to tweak things.

They’ve stayed in every game but when you lose 64/68 goals your attack will clearly suffer.

It’s very relevant when that’s our shortcoming at the minute, not defending

 

[SydneyTiger14]

They’ve stayed in every game but when you lose 64/68 goals your attack will clearly suffer.

It’s very relevant when that’s our shortcoming at the minute, not defending

I think that excuse is wearing pretty thin. We've lost a lot of goals but we've had all summer to replace them with competent players. Our entire back 5 played all of pre-season, Omur and Slater did as well. That's 7 of the 11 who Walter has worked with all through that gruelling 3 week block to work on attacking patterns and ways to score goals and we have 3 goals, one from the spot, to our name across 5 games. Mehlem has played a decent chunk of games for us now, as has Millar, with 1G1A between them in all competitions, the assist being basically a sideways pass before a worldy. Either I'm not particularly convinced by the players we've recruited (and watched to date) or I'm not convinced by Walter. And given Millar's returns in a dour PNE side last season, I don't think it's the former at this point.

We lost KLP and brought in Oscar and he hit the ground running.

Hell, even back when we lost Bowen and Grosicki who scored the majority of our goals and we went down under McCann, we still managed to score goals with new players coming in - didn't we have a 4-4 with Swansea or something nuts? This idea that players need half a season to bed into a new side is really just giving Walter a massive amount of slack he's starting to run out of.

^^ For what it's worth all of this is by way of saying I don't think Baz being unconvinced by Walter is a ridiculous opinion. I don't think anyone has called for Walter to be sacked, but that to date we haven't seen anything particularly impressive.

 

[NewcastleTiger]

I think that excuse is wearing pretty thin. We've lost a lot of goals but we've had all summer to replace them with competent players. Our entire back 5 played all of pre-season, Omur and Slater did as well. That's 7 of the 11 who Walter has worked with all through that gruelling 3 week block to work on attacking patterns and ways to score goals and we have 3 goals, one from the spot, to our name across 5 games. Mehlem has played a decent chunk of games for us now, as has Millar, with 1G1A between them in all competitions, the assist being basically a sideways pass before a worldy. Either I'm not particularly convinced by the players we've recruited (and watched to date) or I'm not convinced by Walter. And given Millar's returns in a dour PNE side last season, I don't think it's the former at this point.

We lost KLP and brought in Oscar and he hit the ground running.

Hell, even back when we lost Bowen and Grosicki who scored the majority of our goals and we went down under McCann, we still managed to score goals with new players coming in - didn't we have a 4-4 with Swansea or something nuts? This idea that players need half a season to bed into a new side is really just giving Walter a massive amount of slack he's starting to run out of.

^^ For what it's worth all of this is by way of saying I don't think Baz being unconvinced by Walter is a ridiculous opinion. I don't think anyone has called for Walter to be sacked, but that to date we haven't seen anything particularly impressive.

But where are the goals. You mention Slater and Omur in pre season but that’s 1 goal from last season. Millar had 5, Bedia and Jarvis never scored in England. It’s the hardest part of the sport and our attack have pretty much never played competitive games with each other.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

But where are the goals. You mention Slater and Omur in pre season but that’s 1 goal from last season. Millar had 5, Bedia and Jarvis never scored in England. It’s the hardest part of the sport and our attack have pretty much never played competitive games with each other.

Omur should be scoring and assisting far more than he has been, and a number of us have been saying that for a while now. We can't now put him in a box and say 'well he didn't produce last season so you can't expect him to this season'. That's really poor from an expensive attacking player.

 

[NewcastleTiger]

Omur should be scoring and assisting far more than he has been, and a number of us have been saying that for a while now. We can't now put him in a box and say 'well he didn't produce last season so you can't expect him to this season'. That's really poor from an expensive attacking player.

But on what grounds do we expect it though. He’s never been prolific and hasn’t looked like it either for us. He should be doing more in the general play of the game for me he doesn’t even create, we always look better with Jarvis on but he’s still proving himself and adapting

 

[SydneyTiger14]

But on what grounds do we expect it though. He’s never been prolific and hasn’t looked like it either for us. He should be doing more in the general play of the game for me he doesn’t even create, we always look better with Jarvis on but he’s still proving himself and adapting

If he's still adapting 8 months after arriving then I don't think there's much hope. Yes player turnover yes whatever whatever, but come on. He's a senior professional. The goals aren't a different size in England. We want to get better but the amount of excuses and cop outs for underperformers is incredible.

Maybe I'm unfairly influenced by the fact we just recorded a look back on the second half of 2017/18 where Wilson came in and scored 7 in 12 as an untried youngster but he certainly didn't need 8 months to adapt to a new team, he just did his thing.

 

[NewcastleTiger]

If he's still adapting 8 months after arriving then I don't think there's much hope. Yes player turnover yes whatever whatever, but come on. He's a senior professional. The goals aren't a different size in England. We want to get better but the amount of excuses and cop outs for underperformers is incredible.

Maybe I'm unfairly influenced by the fact we just recorded a look back on the second half of 2017/18 where Wilson came in and scored 7 in 12 as an untried youngster but he certainly didn't need 8 months to adapt to a new team, he just did his thing.

I’ve watched enough of Omur now to think he isn’t a player to be judged by his G/A. He’s a clever player who knits things together, but unfortunately because there a so few goals in the side it’s highlighted more as a weakness. Everyone thought he was excellent last season without goals as others filled the void

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

But where are the goals. You mention Slater and Omur in pre season but that’s 1 goal from last season. Millar had 5, Bedia and Jarvis never scored in England. It’s the hardest part of the sport and our attack have pretty much never played competitive games with each other.

Millar was played wingback in a defensive side, so perhaps an unfair comparison to what Walterball was billed as.

It should be a fair argument that Giles and Millar should he a formidable combo down the left, but we ain't seeing it.

Where's Abdush gone? He's contributed on the right before but not this season.

So I am a bit concerned we've not seen a bit more idea and verve in our forward play, specifically in the last third.

But then he's not really had a squad until now.

So as I've said before, the next run before the October break will be key.

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

Just listened to Kamara's interview on Tiger+, speaks well, he clearly prefers the right wing, which should balance us much better with either Millar or Belloumi on the left.

 

[mauled1904]

The goals aren't a different size in England.

No but the opposition players are, they're at a different playing level, physical strength and speed.