suarez v evra

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My last comment on this. Suarez has a 'reputation' for not being whiter than white (no pun intended). Evra has previous with this sort of incident which on no occasion has proved founded. Let the official bodies get it sorted, but initial evidence seems to support Suarez
 
Surely the best person to ask is the one, teaching Luis Suarez english, i'm sure the usual one's "which way to the goal" "into my feet Stevie" etc will be being learnt..But somehow i strongly doubt given Suarez's limited English he's been taught the word n****r.

Personally as already stated i think Evra's full of ****..Strange how United are keeping there distance.
 
wow an actaull insightful commentry.....

ynwa has pointe dout not only the FA's won precidence in such a case but what actually happened via the available visual and audio record and not only that but points out the relative poistions of both clubs too.

Lets see what the FA do.
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
My last comment on this. Suarez has a 'reputation' for not being whiter than white (no pun intended). Evra has previous with this sort of incident which on no occasion has proved founded. Let the official bodies get it sorted, but initial evidence seems to support Suarez
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Evra has NO previous.

None, zero, nada.

Whoever told you this lied.
 
I posted that already PMK.

Its bullshit.

If most people had to pick one side and were able to understand the histories of the 2 players Suarez' history of lying, cheating and violence against evras history of being outspoken is going to make most people look at Suarez and thick, well hes a ****, its not to far from a **** to a racist.

But as Liverpool ( yes the club ) spread lies about Evra most liverpool fans are not able to see that evras not lied about this stuff before.

The **** who wrote on the LFC website should be sacked. Blatant lies and misinformation against evra.
 
UIR The Quest For Twenty said:
I posted that already PMK.

Its bullshit.

If most people had to pick one side and were able to understand the histories of the 2 players Suarez' history of lying, cheating and violence against evras history of being outspoken is going to make most people look at Suarez and thick, well hes a ****, its not to far from a **** to a racist.

But as Liverpool ( yes the club ) spread lies about Evra most liverpool fans are not able to see that evras not lied about this stuff before.

The **** who wrote on the LFC website should be sacked. Blatant lies and misinformation against evra.
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Nobody has to pick sides. A guy who handballed and bit another player isn't suddenly more likely to be a racist. All it tells us is that he's overly aggressive.
 
And btw, that article you linked to has in its title 'and why assumptions are dangerous'. That applies both ways, not just to Evra.
 
UIR The Quest For Twenty said:
I posted that already PMK.

Its bullshit.

If most people had to pick one side and were able to understand the histories of the 2 players Suarez' history of lying, cheating and violence against evras history of being outspoken is going to make most people look at Suarez and thick, well hes a ****, its not to far from a **** to a racist.

But as Liverpool ( yes the club ) spread lies about Evra most liverpool fans are not able to see that evras not lied about this stuff before.

The **** who wrote on the LFC website should be sacked. Blatant lies and misinformation against evra.
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Listen mate in this country your innocent until proven guilty,every utd website has got him down as a racist and are awaiting his execution.

The referee,linesmen,his own team-mates and the tv cameras dont tally with Evras claim.
 
suarezlfc said:
Nobody has to pick sides. A guy who handballed and bit another player isn't suddenly more likely to be a racist. All it tells us is that he's overly aggressive.
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A history of cheating and violence.

Most racists are not your upstanding citizen you know. There usually the sort to cheat you out of something or get a bit violent about it.

Its a **** load more accurate than calling evra a liar though. Thats just made up bullshit as has been shown a thousand times over on here and I believe its in todays press.
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
Listen mate in this country your innocent until proven guilty,every utd website has got him down as a racist and are awaiting his execution.

United fans also want evra punished if hes wrong.

No united fan has tried to claim the word isnt offensive, **** loads of liverpool fans have. They have claimed he is a liar with no evidence to support this. They have already decided suarez is innocent in this and this is some sort of agenda to get suarez out of the game.

Should I add some more crazy from the liverpool fans on here and other forums?

Look, its a difficult 1, personally I can imagine suarez being the sort to say it but imagining him to be the sort and him actually bein a racist are 2 different things.
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UIR The Quest For Twenty said:
A history of cheating and violence.

Most racists are not your upstanding citizen you know. There usually the sort to cheat you out of something or get a bit violent about it.

Its a **** load more accurate than calling evra a liar though. Thats just made up bullshit as has been shown a thousand times over on here and I believe its in todays press.
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For **** sake. There isn't even any point in 'debating' with you any more.

How many racists do you know?
He cheated once, and he was violent once. On a football pitch.
Evra has seen straight red for a reckless tackle before, and has cheated to gain an advantage before. Does this mean he has a history of violence and of cheating too?

No matter what I say to you, you never change your bullshit opinion Suarez's past makes him likely to be racist. For that reason, I'm not gonna bother any more.
 
UIR The Quest For Twenty said:
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/ho...-race-card-and-why-assumptions-are-dangerous/

Ignore the fact its written by a United fan, its been picked up by a few journos aswell this piece.
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Sorry UIR you can't ignore the fact that it is written by a United fan. It is merely the authors opinion and does not constitue fact. For me the whole article was tainted by the snide remarks made about how we (as Liverpool supporters) should react based upon our experience with that paper.

If you wish, we can refine the descritions to:

Suarez has previous in that he has been INVOLVED in other incidents (none relating to racism)
Evra has previous in that he has been INVOVED in other incidents (some relating to racism)

Now one of them is wrong in relation to this incident.

The fact that some lazy journos have picked it up is neither here nor there
 
Evra is a **** fullstop. With his big gobby ****ing mouth, I haven't forgotten the WC playoff where HE ACKNOWLEDGED FRANCE CHEATED but told Ireland to be big boys and get over it, and if they wanted a rematch he'd play one one the xbox. Well that WC turned out well for him and I'm sure this situation will too <ok> karma is a bitch
 
suarezlfc said:
For **** sake. There isn't even any point in 'debating' with you any more.

How many racists do you know?
He cheated once, and he was violent once. On a football pitch.
Evra has seen straight red for a reckless tackle before, and has cheated to gain an advantage before. Does this mean he has a history of violence and of cheating too?

No matter what I say to you, you never change your bullshit opinion Suarez's past makes him likely to be racist. For that reason, I'm not gonna bother any more.
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Good one, funny guy suarezlfc.

Seriously though. I am not saying hes a racist. I am saying if we are judging characters as you lot have done with Evra then for me Suarez has said it. Hes a full blown grade A ****.

Answer this, would any of you be surprised if he was guilty?
 
Foredeckdave said:
Sorry UIR you can't ignore the fact that it is written by a United fan. It is merely the authors opinion and does not constitue fact. For me the whole article was tainted by the snide remarks made about how we (as Liverpool supporters) should react based upon our experience with that paper.

If you wish, we can refine the descritions to:

Suarez has previous in that he has been INVOLVED in other incidents (none relating to racism)
Evra has previous in that he has been INVOVED in other incidents (some relating to racism)

Now one of them is wrong in relation to this incident.

The fact that some lazy journos have picked it up is neither here nor there
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Evras been in bust ups with players before and never claimed he was racially abused.

He has however in the suarez case.

Strange tbh. I see no benefit for evra by doing this except the fact he was deeply offended. If you can think of a reason, considering the risk to evra here aswell then let me know.
 
aswordmadeofhash said:
Evra is a **** fullstop. With his big gobby ****ing mouth, I haven't forgotten the WC playoff where HE ACKNOWLEDGED FRANCE CHEATED but told Ireland to be big boys and get over it, and if they wanted a rematch he'd play one one the xbox. Well that WC turned out well for him and I'm sure this situation will too <ok> karma is a bitch
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Least you didnt make that up.

Yes hes a twat for that, not as big a twat as the slimey underhand Henry was though but still, theres better ways he could of said it. If he needed to say it at all.
 
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