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Chazz Rheinhold said:
I'm sure at one point they tried to say he hung all the FC kit up the night before a Friday night game. Very dubious.

Be interesting to see if the smc call any of FC to the tribunal to give evidence. Bet AP is squirming now.
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Why would AP be squirming? Even if all the Allam's have alleged is true then absolutely none of it would be AP's fault.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Why would AP be squirming? Even if all the Allam's have alleged is true then absolutely none of it would be AP's fault.
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It's always about AP though isn't it. These guys detest the idea of a popular owner that isn't the Allams so they pretend to find issues with AP all the time. Allegiance to the Allams is like a ****ing religion to those three.
 
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dennisboothstash said:
To be honest I don't think it's a stupid suggestion
I very much doubt there's any serious animosity, but I wouldn't be that surprised at all if some people have thrown a few unkind words their way, even if in there head it has been considered as lighthearted
There will be several people there who know / support the sacked staff and so I don't think its impossible at all that someone has said something to the new ones

I'm not saying it has been serious, or that it's happened at all, but I think it's naive to suggest that there is no way at all it could have happened
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Its not impossible but its extremely unlikely.

Firstly the vast majority of people in the stadium couldn't give a ****, however lets say a tiny minority do, of this handful of people how many care enough to shout abuse at someone who had nothing to do with the sacking? You could probably count them on one hand. Now consider where the groundsman work and how far it is from the stands. Its all just a bit implausible and as its come from the mouth of a compulsive liar its even more dubious.
 
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PLT said:
It's always about AP though isn't it. These guys detest the idea of a popular owner that isn't the Allams so they pretend to find issues with AP all the time. Allegiance to the Allams is like a ****ing religion to those three.
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Can you give us some evidence that 'these guys detest the idea of a popular owner that isn't the Allams so they pretend to find issues.....' ? Or is it something else you have made up ?
 
Jen De Bais said:
'Everything else we know about Ehab' ? Do you mean what you've heard in the pub, read on here or speculated yourself ? Yet you blindly believe every word, and don't doubt anything the two sacked fellas say ?
As for no-one knowing the identity of the new groundsmen I would have thought anyone working on the pitch on a matchday would be seen by people inside the stadium, wouldn't you ? Perhaps that's when the abuse takes place ?
That is not 'unbelievable' at all and certainly not impossible.
As for embarrassing ? As a board moderator I find your very bias view not very moderate at all, in fact I feel embarrassed for you because you come across as someone with a grudge.
Also you claim 'as we both know' ? You know **** all matey so don't pretend you do.
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Just in the name of accuracy, PLT doesn't moderate of this board and hasn't done for a long time, the supermods just keep forgetting to remove his title.

You're on very dodgy ground accusing anyone on this thread of bias.
 
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Jen De Bais said:
Can you give us some evidence that 'these guys detest the idea of a popular owner that isn't the Allams so they pretend to find issues.....' ? Or is it something else you have made up ?
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He's an ironic parody of himself now.

Part funny (in a laughing at not with manner) and part just really ****ing tedious.
 
Stockholm Tiger said:
I have to say the more I read into this story the less sympathy I have for those dismissed.

If the groundsman was working a 2nd job during paid hours then I don't think he's got a leg to stand on. I have worked with people who have been sacked for exactly this. (Working a field sales roll while also running a business of their own on the side.)

If the supervisor really knew it was happening but turned a blind eye then he clearly wasn't doing his job effectively. Although whether that should be a straight dismissal or a disciplinary procedure is more nuanced I think.

Holding this view doesn't mean I support the way the clubs being run or think any more of Ehab (I couldn't think any less) but I don't think a bloke taking the clubs money while working a second job should be held up as a martyr.
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Plenty of people work two jobs.
 
PLT said:
It's always about AP though isn't it. These guys detest the idea of a popular owner that isn't the Allams so they pretend to find issues with AP all the time. Allegiance to the Allams is like a ****ing religion to those three.
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They're a bitter little set PLT
They'd rather be steadfastly and deliberately contradictory than try to have an opinion that maybe Ehab is wrong.
You wouldn't change their mindset even if Ehab was caught murdering somebody in cold blood .
He'd still be innocent.
Save your breath.
 
originallambrettaman said:
This 'abuse' of the new groundsmen consists of some mild piss-taking one of them got on Twitter after posting claims about the penalty spots actually being there.

Anyone who thought they were abused on the pitch last Saturday is just a little bit daft.
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So there was some abuse then ? on the subject of being a bit daft I think you should have a word with your fellow mod, PMT. He was claiming earlier that is was a '****ing stupid suggestion' that the new grounds staff had received abuse at the KC then he followed that up saying that he thought it 'was a ridiculous claim'.
Obviously wrong then ?
 
Jen De Bais said:
So there was some abuse then ? on the subject of being a bit daft I think you should have a word with your fellow mod, PMT. He was claiming earlier that is was a '****ing stupid suggestion' that the new grounds staff had received abuse at the KC then he followed that up saying that he thought it 'was a ridiculous claim'.
Obviously wrong then ?
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OLM has already told you in post 725 that PLT doesn't moderate on this board and hasn't done for a long while.
Do pay attention you tedious ****.
 
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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
He would work more than the required hours for the grounds keeping job on match days, essentially he'd do 9 to 1 grounds keeping, 1 to 5 kit man, 5 - 11 grounds keeping. that's 10 hours on the job he's paid for (more than he's contracted to) and 5 hours of his own time. His only mistake is not being honest and disclosing this, there should have been no problem letting him do both.

If there was a problem, then why has Ehab been so negligent and allowed it to continue for years?

A simple warning was all that was needed, I'm sure he would have dropped the extra duties to keep his job, although anyone with any experience managing staff would have seen there was no harm in him doing both.
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I've had people in my teams working two jobs, with my agreement. However, I made sure it didn't interfere with the work they did for me. I also made sure we had buy in to what was happening. Same as when you give someone permission to finish early or take a day working from home to help with the family situation you just make sure it's all documented for everyone's sake.

balkan tiger said:
Plenty of people work two jobs.
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Of course they do. I've done it myself when I was younger and needed extra money but I didn't do one while I was being paid to do the other.

@both: It might of all been above board I honestly don't know but, to me at least its all a little bit muddy. I'm sure many will disagree with me but I just thought I'd express my opinion.
 
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Stockholm Tiger said:
I've had people in my teams working two jobs, with my agreement. However, I made sure it didn't interfere with the work they did for me. I also made sure we had buy in to what was happening. Same as when you give someone permission to finish early or take a day working from home to help with the family situation you just make sure it's all documented for everyone's sake.



Of course they do. I've done it myself when I was younger and needed extra money but I didn't do one while I was being paid to do the other.

@both: It might of all been above board I honestly don't know but, to me at least its all a little bit muddy. I'm sure many will disagree with me but I just thought I'd express my opinion.
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They may have had a gentlemen's agreement which worked in the past, but many have learnt that when dealing with the Allams they do have their own way of interpreting things.

The bit in bold, I have never documented anyone working for me going home early or starting a bit late, and I am fairly sure my employers both large and small never did.
 
balkan tiger said:
They may have had a gentlemen's agreement which worked in the past, but many have learnt that when dealing with the Allams they do have their own way of interpreting things.
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Yep you could be right.

balkan tiger said:
The bit in bold, I have never documented anyone working for me going home early or starting a bit late, and I am fairly sure my employers both large and small never did.
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Really. I'd ask them to send me an email and respond just in case some twat tried to screw them.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
This 'abuse' of the new groundsmen consists of some mild piss-taking one of them got on Twitter after posting claims about the penalty spots actually being there.

Anyone who thought they were abused on the pitch last Saturday is just a little bit daft.
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Please direct me to the mild piss taking. Thanks.
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Why would AP be squirming? Even if all the Allam's have alleged is true then absolutely none of it would be AP's fault.
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i never said it was. I meant Ap wouldn't want to be dragged into this. Don't you think it likely they will be calling on some FC staff to say what the groundsman did?
Do you think AP wants to be involved in that. Will he be finding out for himself what this bloke did as a kit man and why they needed him.
Do you think, knowing the Allams, they might look at suing FC for the time he was working for them and not doing his job as a groundsman.
If I was AP I'd be finding out what and when he was working. If the kit men lie to him do you think he might look at sacking them.
PLT said:
It's always about AP though isn't it. These guys detest the idea of a popular owner that isn't the Allams so they pretend to find issues with AP all the time. Allegiance to the Allams is like a ****ing religion to those three.
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It's sad and a bit disturbing you only read things one way.
If I came on her and said Ehab had raped twenty babies. You would agree and say he did it as he does stuff like this look at the concessions.
You're a bit disturbed.
 
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