Silent majority finding their voice?

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Happy Tiger said:
Well well. So finally the silent majority (something denied as existing on this forum) finally have had enough.

So we see the true colours yet again of our noisy minority. Insults and sneering and throwing blame at everyone else.

You could only poke the Tiger for so long before it got pissed off at you and reacted. You've been asking for a reaction for so long and I knew if you got it, you'd react like children. Well done.

I'd rather not have booing but I'd much rather not be bullied or insulted by other fans too.
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The "Silent Majority" is just a term coined by our owner.

We're not insulting you on here, but I think the booing is atrocious. Sure, air your grievances/opinions, but to boo your fans for a chant or it's timing is stupidity. If people want to support Dr. Allam/Hull Tigers - chant your support - but don't boo. Rubs off on the players and management, and causes one hell of an awkward atmosphere.
 
Leeds Met HCAFC Supporter said:
It wouldn't surprise me that most came from the West. I've taken the Mrs' 10 year old sister to two games now, one in the North Stand (where all of the E1 - E3 folk used to be) and one in the NW corner, and she said she preferred the North just simply because there was a lot of excitement in the air!

I've said this for a months - The Prawn Sandwich Brigade will increase with Premier League games, as they want to be seen with the "in-crowd." Would they have been there in 00/01 when the club was minutes away from expulsion/liquidation - would they **** (pardon the French).

It's a shame that we can't get all sides of the ground rocking on match days, and some people still have to stare daggers at folk who want to sing/shout Steve Bruce's name to high heaven instead of just clap. I reckon the atmosphere on Saturday and Wednesday will be completely different, just have that funny feeling.

As I said earlier, seeing the togetherness between fans and players with the Manchester City team this morning before they jetted off to Munich was just... completely different. They have a billionaire chairman who is doing the right thing, and preserving the heritage of the club whilst moving it forward - and the players seem to appreciate the history and fans of the club. With us it's bedlam sometimes, which considering where we were is a real shame!

And I know it wasn't at me, Sir, dont worry :). A few of us do try and make the West Stand fun, but quickly get shot down by the daggers of those who spectate, and don't support.
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In a nutshell - a billionaire owner and a cheeky bid, even if not realistic, for Neymar would increase club revenue and global coverage infinitly in comparisson to changing the name....**** it even an realistiv bid of 3 million and patty for Neymar would increase global awareness.
 
Cityswall said:
That is the worry.
Did the FA ask ALL the city fans their view? Or did they assume CTWD WAS the voice of the fans?
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You need to go and learn how protest groups work. it doesn't matter if its bicycles, save the trees, campaigning for a school crossing patrol. Its always a minority who get of their arses and do something for the benefit of the majority.
 
Leeds Met HCAFC Supporter said:
It's a shame that we can't get all sides of the ground rocking on match days, and some people still have to stare daggers at folk who want to sing/shout Steve Bruce's name to high heaven instead of just clap. I reckon the atmosphere on Saturday and Wednesday will be completely different, just have that funny feeling.

As I said earlier, seeing the togetherness between fans and players with the Manchester City team this morning before they jetted off to Munich was just... completely different. They have a billionaire chairman who is doing the right thing, and preserving the heritage of the club whilst moving it forward - and the players seem to appreciate the history and fans of the club. With us it's bedlam sometimes, which considering where we were is a real shame!

And I know it wasn't at me, Sir, dont worry :). A few of us do try and make the West Stand fun, but quickly get shot down by the daggers of those who spectate, and don't support.
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Exactly. Allam only needs to look at Manchester City's model and see they haven't changed their name to, what was it? Manchester Hunters or whatever absurd suggestion Allam came up with last year. I know we don't own the KC, but that's nothing that getting suitable representatives from both sides (City & HCC) can't sort. Look where we've come in the last 2 years, and what's the name of the Club?

Hull City A.F.C.

That what you've just mentioned (with Man City) is how we should be now. This should be the best time ever to be a Hull City fan, but we have this shadow hanging over us. The man who wants to take us forward is ruining the moment. That's the basis of it really.
 
Gawge said:
I'm with CTWD on the name-change thing, they have done the job. But the "CTWD" entity still has a lot of influence, still badges on show etc...

I just think it might be worth showing resistance. I know it isn't 'winnable'. I know it would be a pretty small minority, and it would be met with boo-like hostility. But, there are a significant amount of people fed up with Allam's frequent problem-causing. How long before the next press conference?
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CTWD was set up to fight the name change and has done so, it's members have now voted for it to become a supporters trust and that's now our aim. Rather than campaigning against the Allam's, we want to engage with the supporters as a whole and try to bring them together, not drive them further apart. There is a real risk of the division between the fans making it's way onto the pitch and that's not in the best interest of the club, it's supporters, or anyone else.

I have no doubt that there will be an Allam Out campaign, I suspect it will start at Newcastle on Saturday, but it will not be supported by CTWD.
 
BelgiumAreADarkHorseTiger said:
In a nutshell - a billionaire owner and a cheeky bid, even if not realistic, for Neymar would increase club revenue and global coverage infinitly in comparisson to changing the name....**** it even an realistiv bid of 3 million and patty for Neymar would increase global awareness.
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I'd never heard of Anhzi until they bid £200m for Messi.
 
BelgiumAreADarkHorseTiger said:
In a nutshell - a billionaire owner and a cheeky bid, even if not realistic, for Neymar would increase club revenue and global coverage infinitly in comparisson to changing the name....**** it even an realistiv bid of 3 million and patty for Neymar would increase global awareness.
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I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying Dr. Allam wants success, well we have to look at their model. They didn't need to change their name, or lie about what the name is (not and has never been Hull City Tigers), they've kept their name and heritage and moved into their swanky new stadium not soon after we did. Yes they do have the funds to go and buy whoever they want, but they're also building acadamies/buildings around the stadium's area for future success. THAT's what needs to happen - the owner needs to listen to fans, and note how Manchester City's owner has a close bond with the council.

Plus Neymar's worth about as much as a Spam Fritter and Chips... don't rate him at all. Give me Phil Jevons or Michael Reddy any day!
 
Leeds Met HCAFC Supporter said:
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying Dr. Allam wants success, well we have to look at their model. They didn't need to change their name, or lie about what the name is (not and has never been Hull City Tigers), they've kept their name and heritage and moved into their swanky new stadium not soon after we did. Yes they do have the funds to go and buy whoever they want, but they're also building acadamies/buildings around the stadium's area for future success. THAT's what needs to happen - the owner needs to listen to fans, and note how Manchester City's owner has a close bond with the council.

Plus Neymar's worth about as much as a Spam Fritter and Chips... don't rate him at all. Give me Phil Jevons or Michael Reddy any day!
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Walton and Lewis for me.....

I don't think AA bothers with others business models it his or nothing unfortunatley - in a flippant way I was saying if AA just left the club alone and let it be a football business things might work. AA is rich but not rich enough to do what Citeh have done, for that you need billions not millions.
 
As has been said several times - instead of booing why don't the silent majority/minority do their own chant/song. Now judging by the outraged comments by those who are, shall I call them the traditionalists, I assume that those chants/songs would never be booed. or would we see double standards from the outraged minority/majority
 
originallambrettaman said:
CTWD was set up to fight the name change and has done so, it's members have now voted for it to become a supporters trust and that's now our aim. Rather than campaigning against the Allam's, we want to engage with the supporters as a whole and try to bring them together, not drive them further apart. There is a real risk of the division between the fans making it's way onto the pitch and that's not in the best interest of the club, it's supporters, or anyone else.

I have no doubt that there will be an Allam Out campaign, I suspect it will start at Newcastle on Saturday, but it will not be supported by CTWD.
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The voice of reason.
 
OLM, I think CTWD should hang back with the statement, hopefully this isn't too late. The emotions from last night need to subside a little. I will use the old e-mail address later tonight to explain why and my thoughts on the future. For the rest of you please don't ask me to elaborate because I won't, sorry.
 
Leeds Met HCAFC Supporter said:
I've said this for a months - The Prawn Sandwich Brigade will increase with Premier League games, as they want to be seen with the "in-crowd." Would they have been there in 00/01 when the club was minutes away from expulsion/liquidation - would they **** (pardon the French).

It's a shame that we can't get all sides of the ground rocking on match days, and some people still have to stare daggers at folk who want to sing/shout Steve Bruce's name to high heaven instead of just clap. I reckon the atmosphere on Saturday and Wednesday will be completely different, just have that funny feeling.
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As one of these 'so called' prawn sandwichers(you can't actually get anything other than soup or a pie in the members bar, they don't do prawns), I'd just like to point out that you can't join the 'in-crowd' the corporate area is full and isn't taking new members, so they're pretty much the same people as last season and the season before that and the season before that etc etc etc

In fact, many of them are the same people who I saw in the corporate section at Boothferry Park(which was actually a large tent with pallets for a floor), so were there before the KC.

Anyone who expects the corporate area of any ground to be a singing section is a bloody idiot and I'm not particularly keen on these sweeping generalisations about who sits where. If you want a pissing contest on our respective Hull City supporting credentials, then we can have one, but I suspect you'll lose by quite some distance.
 
Obadiah said:
OLM, I think CTWD should hang back with the statement, hopefully this isn't too late. The emotions from last night need to subside a little. I will use the old e-mail address later tonight to explain why and my thoughts on the future. For the rest of you please don't ask me to elaborate because I won't, sorry.
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You can email the old group no problem Obi, nothing is being rushed out.
 
I'm worried the Taxman reads these posts. We declared (and paid tax on) tiny crowds in the rose tinted days of Fer Ark, but now there are thousands of people on this forum all of whom seemed to have been at every match since 1950.

Hope we don't get billed for the back tax.

Might be worth changing the club name to avoid it.
 
The proper Hull City fans should just chant louder and even more passionately. If the name change ever did go through, the passionate supporters who chant week in, week out would probably boycott all home games. Then the KC will be like a library, as the 'silent majority' wouldn't make any noise unless is requires booing their fellow fans. Why would they make any noise? They're the 'silent majority' after all...
 
I believe, that every hull tigers supporter, will at some point in their life win the Nigerian lottery.
I however will not, I'm not that gullible.
I will however be watching Hull City, whichever division we happen to be playing in. You see ,I'm a realist, and I realise no one has a divine right to play, year in year out in the top flight.
Some ex PL clubs may have crashed and burned, but most have done it with dignity .
 
Leeds Met HCAFC Support The "Silent Majority" is just a term coined by our owner.

We're not insulting you on here, but I think the booing is atrocious. Sure, air your grievances/opinions, but to boo your fans for a chant or it's timing is stupidity. If people want to support Dr. Allam/Hull Tigers - chant your support - but don't boo. Rubs off on the players and management, and causes one hell of an awkward atmosphere.

You mean just like CTWD did with the banner
 
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