Silent majority finding their voice?

Didn't post last night because I'd regret what I would have put. But, after thinking about it, here goes:

If they love Allam and want him to stay so much, why not have a chant that supports him rather than booing your own fans? Civil war between our own fans in utterly ridiculous and I was livid when I heard it. NO it's not because we can't accept an alternative view, it's the fact that it's a completely unnecessary way to voice your support.

The chant of, "Where were you when we were ****!?" was enjoyable to see the look of realisation on their faces. It's ironic that a stand which contributes sweet **** All to atmosphere and never has done, mustered up justification to boo a chant which has been around before many of us, and certainly well before Allam was involved with our beloved Club. As Ehab himself has said; he doesn't mind that chant as it adds to atmosphere. It's simple chants that show our protest to his idea, nothing more, nothing to distract the team, nothing to make things more complicated than they should be.

If these boo boys want to voice their opinion, stand up off your ****ing arses for once and try singing a chant in support. That single act (booing) is a lot worse and is doing a lot more damage than anybody thinks the CTWD campaign is.

****ing unbelievable.

 

Blah blah blah

Apologies for not taking everything as seriously as you - read them all word for word and of course I don't think a CTWD statement would include a line like that....Jesus Christ.

 

Everyone knows they are a vague collection of those who don't want the name changing, with a leadership aimed at being appeasing and cooperative.

It's been like that for over a year, I don't see what more they can do with that aim? Just a continued public show of vague resistance to the name change. They have continually repeated their support for Allam, just anti-name change.

If CTWD actually went anti-Allam, there could be a firm organisation against him. Maybe we would have success and drive Allam out. Maybe not. But at least there would be a concentrated support against Allam, and for Hull City (which I think would be good in itself, but would be a good place to go for everybody disillusioned with the club, and who knows what that could lead to).

I'm talking about being Anti-Allam not just because of the name change. The name-change is the obvious example, but the writing was on the wall way back since the treatment of Barmby. Add the stadium fiasco. Allam shows a general contempt for fans. CTWD did a great job at opposing the name change bid last season, but Allam is just going to continue trying to change the name - and whatever else he fancies doing, regardless of fan opinion, sentiment or just plain common sense.

 

This - the booing was cringey regardless of reasoning behind it. If they have a voice that they want to be heard an alternative chant is the best way of doing it.....doubt it'll happen though?

Maybe CTWD could include an anti CTWD chant in thier statement as a gift to the oppo's that'll add extra irony to any anti CTWD chant and add CTWD's cause to their opposition.....

 

Well said, Sir! However I sit (usually) in the West Stand, and try to sing to my heart's content (sound like one of the tits off the X-Factor, but oh well!)

 

I defend the right of those who sing "City till I die" as much as you - I still want to know from any member of CTWD why we no longer chant / sing "the TIGERS!" as we have done ever since I can remember and started supporting City back in the 1970's. Has AA got us so scared that we no longer sing of our own nickname? Sad to say but it wasn't just the west stand that was booing last night. The boos came from South and East stands as well.

 

That post is not aimed at you then my friend.

The bulk of the boos were the West Stand though. I had a mate in the East Stand who said those who booed got grief from most fans around them.

 

You make some valid points and you had me up to the point of "Barmby." Nick Barmby was a fantastic player and servant of the club. However, I thought he was an average manager at best. Seemed he had his favorites and if your face didn't fit you didn't get a look in at the first team. He seemed to fall out with too many players and flogged the same 15 or 16 to death by expecting them to perform well every match.

Your summarizing of Allam however is spot on.

 

I know there is some contestation about the Barmby thing, and discussion about it is probably best left alone. I was just showing some of the more obvious examples (because whatever you thought of Barmby as a manager, i'm sure the general consensus was that it was pretty cold how he was dumped).

Actually, all the examples are quite sore issues, just goes to show the kind of problems Allam creates.

 

Because those that sing don't want to is the simple answer. Nothing to do with CTWD but just a general reluctance to give any credence to Hull Tigers. A sorry state of affairs, yes, but understandable given the attitude of Assem Allam.

I still sing The Tigers at the end of Wise Men but I'm in a minority. There was nothing to stop those booing singing The Tigers at the end of Wise Men, but they don't/didn't.

 

I wonder if CTWD had been born and opposed the proposed move to Melton, would we be fighting against a move to Melton right now as "no one tells me how to run my business"?

I am 99% certain that would be the case. The only reason Allam is carrying on us brcause he has to have the last laugh, people stood in his way and he didn't like it.

Just imagine the predicament Hull City would find themselves in if Allam managed to get the freehold of the KC stadium. Dear god that's a scary thought...

 

I'm with CTWD on the name-change thing, they have done the job. But the "CTWD" entity still has a lot of influence, still badges on show etc...

I just think it might be worth showing resistance. I know it isn't 'winnable'. I know it would be a pretty small minority, and it would be met with boo-like hostility. But, there are a significant amount of people fed up with Allam's frequent problem-causing. How long before the next press conference?

 

Excellent point.

 

Well well. So finally the silent majority (something denied as existing on this forum) finally have had enough.

So we see the true colours yet again of our noisy minority. Insults and sneering and throwing blame at everyone else.

You could only poke the Tiger for so long before it got pissed off at you and reacted. You've been asking for a reaction for so long and I knew if you got it, you'd react like children. Well done.

I'd rather not have booing but I'd much rather not be bullied or insulted by other fans too.

 

Another very good point.

 

I was happier they booed in the West corner than threw their celery and hummus at me.

#Messy
#Garlic

 

It wouldn't surprise me that most came from the West. I've taken the Mrs' 10 year old sister to two games now, one in the North Stand (where all of the E1 - E3 folk used to be) and one in the NW corner, and she said she preferred the North just simply because there was a lot of excitement in the air!

I've said this for a months - The Prawn Sandwich Brigade will increase with Premier League games, as they want to be seen with the "in-crowd." Would they have been there in 00/01 when the club was minutes away from expulsion/liquidation - would they **** (pardon the French).

It's a shame that we can't get all sides of the ground rocking on match days, and some people still have to stare daggers at folk who want to sing/shout Steve Bruce's name to high heaven instead of just clap. I reckon the atmosphere on Saturday and Wednesday will be completely different, just have that funny feeling.

As I said earlier, seeing the togetherness between fans and players with the Manchester City team this morning before they jetted off to Munich was just... completely different. They have a billionaire chairman who is doing the right thing, and preserving the heritage of the club whilst moving it forward - and the players seem to appreciate the history and fans of the club. With us it's bedlam sometimes, which considering where we were is a real shame!

And I know it wasn't at me, Sir, dont worry . A few of us do try and make the West Stand fun, but quickly get shot down by the daggers of those who spectate, and don't support.

 

There were around 20,000 City fans there last night.

If the silent "majority" have spoken, can we safely assume over 10,000 people booed? That appears to be your assertion. Unless you've redefined what a majority is.

 

The 'insulting' isn't in the Stadium, it's more debate and it's usually on these forums and over a drink at the pub. "City Till I Die" isn't an insult. It wasn't an insult 10 years ago, it's not an insult now. Booing is completely ridiculous and the completely wrong way to have a so called 'reaction' and you know it. Why not sing, "We say yes Allam" or something along those lines. You know, actually contributing to atmosphere as our chants do.

This is the first reaction of this so called 'majority' and it's definitely not a good start. CTWD and it's members have conducted themselves in a good manner considering the circumstances and the provocations from Allam himself. The statements have always been top notch and the demands not unrealistic. This silent majority's first move is to boo their own fans?

Ridiculous. I think we know who looks worse to the non-City supporters.