Silent majority finding their voice?

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

How can those pro-Allam supporters expect to be taken seriously when they have remained silent for over a year and then when they finally made their voices heard they are responsible for one of the most shameful and disgusting events in our clubs history.

Why have you been so passive in all of this? You could have your own supporters group, your own chants but instead you have sat and watched as other fans have controlled the fate of your own club, you've let yourselves down, not because you failed but because you couldn't be bothered to try in the first place.

If you want to misdirect your anger at a group of fans that cared enough to make their voices heard then that's up to you, just keep it out of the stadium, its not welcome.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Sums it up best for me...

James Withers @jameskwiths
For me if your pro name change you're entitled to that opinion, if you wanna chant in favour you do that, don't boo your own fans. #hcafc

 

[look_back_in_amber]

This is very true, CTWD have conducted themselves well throughout. Unfortunately some of its members/supporters have not. People on here complaining about fans turning on each other in the stadium last night yet it has been acceptable to attack anyone on here for having a different view for the last 6 months.

Exactly!

 

[Carmine Galante.]

Neither do you sing, 'Where were you when we were ****?' to your own fans.

The booing was out order but so was singing that.

IMO.

 

[look_back_in_amber]

I fail to see how celebrating our name at a time equivalent to the year of our formation, with a well known and positive chant/song, can possibly be offensive to anyone at all.

Booing it? Get a grip.

You'd be right if that's all that it was, unfortunately it isn't, there's now an undertone to it which is basically telling AA to shove Hull Tigers up his arse, and anyone that can't see that basically doesn't want to!

 

[Sunbeam-Tiger]

Anyone who boos me singing City Til We Die will face the consequences

like you lot did with that stupid banner against Cystal Palace which clearly affected the players

FAO DMD.

#2: Debt owed to whom exactly? Is it owed to an external financier as per Pearson and Bartlett or finance based materially on our current owner's wealth?

There is a BIG difference and I find it hard to think you are ignorant enough to conflate an internally financed venture with an externally financed one genuinely.

GET OVER YOURSELF. RUSCADOR WAS 22 YEARS AGO!!!!!.

I wasn't there tonight but if i ever hear someone boo a Hull City song near me they'll be picking their teeth off the floor.

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.

Neither do you sing, 'Where were you when we were ****?' to your own fans.

The booing was out order but so was singing that.

IMO.

How can those pro-Allam supporters expect to be taken seriously when they have remained silent for over a year and then when they finally made their voices heard they are responsible for one of the most shameful and disgusting events in our clubs history.

Why have you been so passive in all of this? You could have your own supporters group, your own chants but instead you have sat and watched as other fans have controlled the fate of your own club, you've let yourselves down, not because you failed but because you couldn't be bothered to try in the first place.

If you want to misdirect your anger at a group of fans that cared enough to make their voices heard then that's up to you, just keep it out of the stadium, its not welcome.

 

[jamesthemonkeh]

Since the so-called silent majority clearly have not organised themselves into a campaign group as CTWD have, I suspect it is the only way they will make their feelings known - but you would have to ask those who booed why they did so. Maybe if they kept silent, we would all think there was no silent majority - as I have thought until last night. It wasn't pleasant and it can't help anyone to have open division on the terraces, but I suspect if CTWD continue to use 19:04 what we heard last night will be heard at subsequent home games

If we stop singing it then that is one big victory to Allam and the appeasers.

 

[Party Hull!]

Anyone who boos me singing City Til We Die will face the consequences

like you lot did with that stupid banner against Cystal Palace which clearly affected the players

Ha, it was like kryptonite wasn't it.

That bloody banner. With its powers.

 

[Amin Arrears]

I've just figured out what went on.

One or two parasitic scum bag premier league whores started booing the CTWD chant, to which many more reacted and started booing them. There were only actually a handful of mentally handicapped bigots booing the song.

Another great victory against the name change and pro Allam scum.

 

[I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..]

I'm neither pro the name change or CTWD, in fact the only thing that I don't like about CTWD is that I've never asked for them to speak for me, I may agree with them but thier reps who go on 5live and other media outlets don't speak for me even when they say they do....nothing more nothing less.

I wasn't there last night but a point is being missed the booing, I assume, was not aimed at the team, the fans or even necessarily pro name change (although I can definatley see why it can and has been interpreted that way)....it to me seemed to be anti CTWD which is a very different thing.

Doesn't make it right tho.

 

[Cityswall]

Couldn't get past page 3 without losing the interest to join the debate

Will be mods act on all this bullshit anger and feather spitting ?
I'm guessing it got worst past where I read , there's no debate just slagging off


For what it's worth I saw the booing as anti ctwd as opposed to what some frothers
See as anti club or whatever , it would have been better had they sang hull tigers instead of boo

But boo they did and the ctwd group of which I'm a member can't claim to be the only fans voice

That is the worry.
Did the FA ask ALL the city fans their view? Or did they assume CTWD WAS the voice of the fans?

 

[tigerrev]

If we stop singing it then that is one big victory to Allam and the appeasers.

I accept your point. We are, however in danger of becoming more polarised what with booing and "where were u when we were sh1t" etc. (I suspect that a fair number of boo-ers were actually at games when we were sh1t and that the accusation is inaccurate. In an ideal world supporters - whatever their views on name change and ownership - would stop hurling verbal insults at each other and unite behind the team for the full 90 minutes the games are in progress. Is there a different approach CTWD can take that will not antagonize other City supporters (as it seemed to do last night)? I leave that to CTWD to ponder but I can only see the existing divide between supporters getting wider (and more vocal on match days) unless supporters of differing views find some way of working out a compromise

 

[Putter65]

Sums it up best for me...

James Withers @jameskwiths
For me if your pro name change you're entitled to that opinion, if you wanna chant in favour you do that, don't boo your own fans. #hcafc

A lot of people did though

 

[Putter65]

If we stop singing it then that is one big victory to Allam and the appeasers.

Before and after the match, not after 19 minutes. Could effect the players.

 

[Obadiah]

That is the worry.
Did the FA ask ALL the city fans their view? Or did they assume CTWD WAS the voice of the fans?

They invited views from the OSC. The OSC were going to organise a ballot of supporters, at the Chelsea match I think, but the club indicated they would lose their privileges if they did. All from memory, so I may have some of the details wrong.

 

[I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..]

That is the worry.
Did the FA ask ALL the city fans their view? Or did they assume CTWD WAS the voice of the fans?

I don't think CTWD have ever claimed to the sole voice of the fans - however they ahve until last night been the only vocal voice - i do think CTWD have done a lot things in a very positive way and have done thier best as a unit to behave very professionally. However I think somethimes they need to back up thier arguments with facts, just because AA doesn't doesn't mean they don't have to.

Last night will result in either an increase in CTWD membership or a louder anti CTWD voice at the next home game - the problem is being vocal about not supporting CTWD can only be interpreted by the owners as being pro name change which may not be the whole story?

Maybe CTWD should ballot season ticket holders - or stand outside prinny quay and do a survey on thier support from those who haven't signed up to CTWD?

 

[originallambrettaman]

That is the worry.
Did the FA ask ALL the city fans their view? Or did they assume CTWD WAS the voice of the fans?

They asked CTWD, the OSC, the East Riding FA and Hull City Council, who else do you think they should have asked?

 

[Charon]

That is the worry.
Did the FA ask ALL the city fans their view? Or did they assume CTWD WAS the voice of the fans?

that's it you see - did the FA ask all the CITY fans - Allam doesn't want there to be CITY fans - the CTWD and the fans singing the song are supporters of Hull CITY - the people who booed clearly are not supporters of Hull CITY otherwise they wouldn't have booed at those that support the team

 

[I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..]

They asked CTWD, the OSC, the East Riding FA and Hull City Council, who else do you think they should have asked?

Plus a fair few of us emailed/posted our feelings to the FA as well which i hope was mainly anti name change, but there may have been some pro changers?

 

[1MoreAgain]

that's it you see - did the FA ask all the CITY fans - Allam doesn't want there to be CITY fans - the CTWD and the fans singing the song are supporters of Hull CITY - the people who booed clearly are not supporters of Hull CITY otherwise they wouldn't have booed at those that support the team

Not Supporters? but they paid the money to watch the team does not matter if they sing or not maybe it could be they are fed up with ctwd thinking they are the only supporters of the club,it is obvious they booed ctwd when they sang at that particular time it was maybe showing how they feel about it.