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[dennisboothstash]

I will not join any organisation that has members that hold the type of views PLT does.

Plus I'd never join any organisation that doesn't like being challenged or questioned.

I had high hopes when they name changed from CTWD but they've been a huge disappointment since then.

What was it that you had high hopes for the Trust doing?

 

[PLT]

"Odious views."

There aren't many stronger words than odious.

So I'd love to know what particular views me, the Trust or any other trust director has ever expressed which warrants such extreme language.

I wait with baited breath. Just like every other time I've pulled him up on it.

 

[Real ale tiger]

They're useless and they allow cockwombles like PLT on their committee.

Seems to be an excuse to attend jollies and make out they're part of the great union of football supporters but realistically have achieved **** all and do **** all for Hull City fans.

Their greatest achievement is an embarrassing twitter campaign. Although that sums them up, they're the victims, everything is Ehabs fault.

They could and should have been so much more.

They are a huge disappointment.

Why'd you ask? Are we back to thou shalt not question them?

And you could do better.then why don't you.

 

[Des Head]

listen fella.. I don't like being told what to think.
I also don't like being told that I am less of a fan cos I'm not stupid enough to part with MY cash to attend matches.
if you want to pay EA, I'm sure that makes you feel good. butt that knocks you off the moral high ground when it comes to your protest of EA.......
if you get a picket line going on match days, you will get the medias attention.
till then............... you are full of hot air!

Come on, mate. That's not why people think you're "stupid enough".

 

[Real ale tiger]

Unfair I think
Red card campaign was excellent at raising awareness
Stuff with the FA has helped start tightening rules around club identity
It effectively gave us all the opportunity to vote on the name change
It exists as a representative group when there is something else to be consulted upon

I'm not on the committee, but if I was concerned about what the committee is doing then I'd stand for election to try and change things

Great reply

 

[Des Head]

How is this discussion going to end? If you all put your heads close to your screen of what ever you are using I will bang them all together because its nearly bed time.and most of you may have to get up early. Fortunately I don't but you are going round in circles and getting nowhere. Oh one more thing you can shout at me all you want I am far too old to be offended.

**** you Charles, you ****.



Only kidding, hope you're well.

 

[Des Head]

"Odious views."

There aren't many stronger words than odious.

So I'd love to know what particular views me, the Trust or any other trust director has ever expressed which warrants such extreme language.

I wait with baited breath. Just like every other time I've pulled him up on it.

Well, for a start, it's bated.

 

[PLT]

What was it that you had high hopes for the Trust doing?

It's not about that Dennis.

If you were bored enough to go back and look, you could find a history of this stuff going back literally years. Ultimately Happy seems to absolutely hate me... because I absolutely hate the Allams and don't hold back in saying so. It really is as simple as that. I've never actually done anything beyond get into arguments with him on here. Sometimes he hates OLM too, but other times he pretends to be more pally having previously called OLM all the names under the sun, in order to present a contrast against whoever he wants to go to town on, usually me.

There's a very long-running theme of Happy just outright making stuff up about the trust or its directors, usually me. Usually I'm not even involved in the conversation. If I can be arsed I usually challenge it, but he can't possibly reply because it's completely fabricated. Like this "odious views" thing. He's hoping that someone uninformed will read it and assume that a trust director has expressed some really extreme standpoint at some time. No smoke without fire right? It's basically a one man propaganda campaign. It's really ****ed up and I can't stand the dishonesty of it.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Ehab has openly acknowledged the fans want them out and they want out, what exactly will protests achieve?

Ehab saying "Oh yes, we were pretty sure before but now we're absolutely sure."?

 

[PLT]

Ehab has openly acknowledged the fans want them out and they want out, what exactly will protests achieve?

Ehab saying "Oh yes, we were pretty sure before but now we're absolutely sure."?

Not saying protests will necessarily make a difference, but Ehab's actions have never matched those of someone looking to sell. We know he's a liar so his words should be disregarded.

I think he's very comfortable just ticking along as he is. He probably gets a bit of stick in the street now and then but he's happy taking that and still being able to say he owns a football club when he's with the polo boys. If it was possible to make him motivated to sell through protests then I'd be right behind them.

For some people though I think it's just cathartic. They want to make a noise about it and for the media etc to pick it up and just be heard. Again, whether that makes it the best course of action or not is another question.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Not saying protests will necessarily make a difference, but Ehab's actions have never matched those of someone looking to sell. We know he's a liar so his words should be disregarded.

I think he's very comfortable just ticking along as he is. He probably gets a bit of stick in the street now and then but he's happy taking that and still being able to say he owns a football club when he's with the polo boys. If it was possible to make him motivated to sell through protests then I'd be right behind them.

For some people though I think it's just cathartic. They want to make a noise about it and for the media etc to pick it up and just be heard. Again, whether that makes it the best course of action or not is another question.

But that's my point, if he's a liar and doesn't want to sell, but acknowledges the fans want him and the family out, what more will they achieve?

If it's cathartic, go ahead, but it's pointless if people think it'll actually make a difference.

 

[dennisboothstash]

It's not about that Dennis.

If you were bored enough to go back and look, you could find a history of this stuff going back literally years. Ultimately Happy seems to absolutely hate me... because I absolutely hate the Allams and don't hold back in saying so. It really is as simple as that. I've never actually done anything beyond get into arguments with him on here. Sometimes he hates OLM too, but other times he pretends to be more pally having previously called OLM all the names under the sun, in order to present a contrast against whoever he wants to go to town on, usually me.

There's a very long-running theme of Happy just outright making stuff up about the trust or its directors, usually me. Usually I'm not even involved in the conversation. If I can be arsed I usually challenge it, but he can't possibly reply because it's completely fabricated. Like this "odious views" thing. He's hoping that someone uninformed will read it and assume that a trust director has expressed some really extreme standpoint at some time. No smoke without fire right? It's basically a one man propaganda campaign. It's really ****ed up and I can't stand the dishonesty of it.

I do realise you're not best mates!
I'm not taking sides on that, but also that view (that the Trust could do things better) isn't just Happy's either so it's still a question worth asking

I am genuinely interested what those who are disappointed in the Trust but originally had high hopes think should be done specifically that isn't being done

 

[Benjo]

It's not about that Dennis.

If you were bored enough to go back and look, you could find a history of this stuff going back literally years. Ultimately Happy seems to absolutely hate me... because I absolutely hate the Allams and don't hold back in saying so. It really is as simple as that. I've never actually done anything beyond get into arguments with him on here. Sometimes he hates OLM too, but other times he pretends to be more pally having previously called OLM all the names under the sun, in order to present a contrast against whoever he wants to go to town on, usually me.

There's a very long-running theme of Happy just outright making stuff up about the trust or its directors, usually me. Usually I'm not even involved in the conversation. If I can be arsed I usually challenge it, but he can't possibly reply because it's completely fabricated. Like this "odious views" thing. He's hoping that someone uninformed will read it and assume that a trust director has expressed some really extreme standpoint at some time. No smoke without fire right? It's basically a one man propaganda campaign. It's really ****ed up and I can't stand the dishonesty of it.

Pretty much spot on this. Bores me to tears sometimes when happy starts talking ****e. He'll probably chalk that last sentence up for the trust having odious views despite me being hardly abusive and the fact I have **** all to do with them.

 

[Benjo]

I do realise you're not best mates!
I'm not taking sides on that, but also that view (that the Trust could do things better) isn't just Happy's either so it's still a question worth asking

I am genuinely interested what those who are disappointed in the Trust but originally had high hopes think should be done specifically that isn't being done

They've got nothing... it's been asked on here numerous times but I've not heard a decent response yet personally. Well, nothing that isn't completely idealistic and lacking any suggested actions.

 

[PLT]

They've got nothing... it's been asked on here numerous times but I've not heard a decent response yet personally. Well, nothing that isn't completely idealistic and lacking any suggested actions.

The only poster I can think of who could be said to have had high hopes for the trust is DMD. Others like Happy moaned from the very inception of CTWD, through the formation of the trust to where we are today, and are completely disingenuous by pretending any differently.

 

[DMD]

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-suggestions-for-the-trust-thread.343869/

http://www.not606.com/threads/ehab-speaks.342213/

http://www.not606.com/threads/protests-then-what-do-you-want.332634/

http://www.not606.com/threads/hcst-hull-city-vs-swansea-city-–-boycott-action.340588/

 

[AlRawdah]

I would observe that this isn't a thread about the Trust, and isn't being embellished by being so. I regret my part in making it veer in that direction.

 

[Fez]

Ehab has openly acknowledged the fans want them out and they want out, what exactly will protests achieve?

Maybe not quite so simple as this, but very close ...

but Ehab's actions have never matched those of someone looking to sell.

This isn't true. Prospective owners got to the stage of being disqualified by the FA; I believe this was adequate evidence of clear intent. I don't think the process of selling a football club should be over simplified.

 

[PLT]

Maybe not quite so simple as this, but very close ...



This isn't true. Prospective owners got to the stage of being disqualified by the FA; I believe this was adequate evidence of clear intent. I don't think the process of selling a football club should be over simplified.

The FA nor PL never announced anything about having blocked it. Assem just gleefully declared it to anyone who'd listen at a bloke's funeral.

 

[Fez]

I will not join any organisation that has members that hold the type of views PLT does.

So I'd love to know what particular views me, the Trust or any other trust director has ever expressed which warrants such extreme language.

I wait with baited breath. Just like every other time I've pulled him up on it.

I think you know what it is that he holds you to account for; think back to your rather unfortunate remarks about inherent faults in the charactor of Africans.

The truth is that most folk understood you were not being racist, just inept. Happy has decided to hang on to that as a barb to strengthen the nonsense he posts about the Trust.

He's wrong to do that. Happy made a similar error over the concessions, when he totally misjudged the weight of opinion and posted that he was happy to take the savings and bugger the kids and pensioners - not exactly what he wrote, but it fairly reflects the sentiment that came across.

We picked him up on it, he eventually changed tack and we eventually dropped it and moved on. Happy should do that with you, as it reflects quite poorly against him.