Wigan beat City, why can't they beat Arsenal? Arsenal normally bottle it and Wigan finish the season well, plus Wigan's previous results against Arsenal haven't been bad. Win both games and they're safe. Very unlikely, but still.
Never met a poor bookie...: Relegation odds: [TABLE="width: 130"] [TR] [TD="width: 65"]Wigan[/TD] [TD="class: xl63, width: 65, align: right"]1/9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Norwich[/TD] [TD]1000/1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Newcastle[/TD] [TD]1000/1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sunderland[/TD] [TD="class: xl63, align: right"]30/1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Aston Villa[/TD] [TD]42/1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Southampton[/TD] [TD]700/1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fulham 700/1[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] We're safe!
Reminds me of Lg1 with our last home game against Walsall. My brother refused to get excited even when we beat Plymouth and was nervous all week before the walsall game!
I remember Huddersfield scoring two goals in two minutes at about 15 minutes in and was worried that they'd score the 17 goals or whatever which was required, and we'd let in a late goal vs Walsall to lose!
If anything, the situation now is even more unlikely than back then (although I can't remember what the GD exactly was). Back then, that massive GD disparity could be closed by a mixture of us and Huddersfield (ie us conceding and Huddersfield scoring). Us losing 6-0, and them winning 6-0 for example. This however has to be closed by us alone, on the basis that Villa have to lose themselves. Every additional goal that Villa fall behind is an additional goal we'd have to find.
Good guessing, afraid to say I think we are unlikely to land on lucky 13 though. If we lose our last game we'll stay 14th or lower and if we win or draw we'll probably be higher than 13th considering the teams above us have tough games.
We draw and one of Villa or Fulham win would do it. But yes, that aside I do agree that 13th doesn't look massively likely - particularly if we don't draw.
Thank you, Qwerty. I almost bothered to do this myself straight away, when I couldn't check the BBC tables, to see how ridiculous the score has to become. I've had Stoke beating us 10-0 and either Wigan winning upto 10-0 or losing 10-0 against Villa, and still either of them go down and we stay up. I didn't bother being more ridiculous than that.
You're actually being too ridiculous. The bigger the Villa defeat, the bigger we would have to lose by. A 13-0 and 1-0 defeat combination is ridiculous enough, let alone 22-0 and 10-0 defeats.