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I’m struggling to see what Tom White has done wrong? He’s reporting info from sources, one of which will be Dave Jones and because we don’t like the news he is getting pelters. I don’t trust any of them and I include KLD and JS in this, it’s a mess. From everyone feeling really optimistic a couple of weeks ago to now wondering what the hell is going on. Just my opinion like
Research perhaps, bankruptcies all over the shop from the main man but if he’s been given an “exclusive” then of course you’re inclined to break it.

However, he’s been played by Methven here, IMO.
 
Oh aye but again RR running this piece this morning is going to whip it all up again! That's why Tom should stop the nonsense.

Yep. Think RR appears desperate to get something right, or get it early.

They are misunderstanding their jobs and roles, such as they are. They are a fan site, that's all, not Rueters .

You would think they might have learned by now.
 
The least best outcome is Methvan being left on his own and having to try to fund stuff and having his shares slowly diluted in a cut-by-cut slow painful death :)

That's exactly what I'm hoping for/expecting.

Despite what some think I believe KLD is a sharp operator surrounded by sharp operators.

Methven's position is seriously shaky. He has nothing to offer but a handful of shares with no influence, seat on the board or even any value unless they're sold on for a profit.

Donald is little better off but there's a chance he can sell 'into the family' if he gets real with the price.

It's more likely that KLD would overpay Sartori, for his, than pay Donald's price, even at market value.

Unlike other buyers KLD/MLD don't have to fork out half a million on due diligence, solicitors, etc.

In the meantime it's business as usual.
 
Back to beaches for a second....
@Smug in Boots
Brighouse Bay beach is canny, just past Borgue if travelling from Newton Stewart Another canny one is at Carrick, which is just before Borgue...small and quite secluded, you can wade over to the small island opposite.
Kippford and Rockcliff are both nice as well, both South of Castle Douglas and Dalbeattie.
Well worth a visit.

That's fantastic mate.

We've been here since February but our exploring has been mainly work related.

The grandkids will appreciate everyone's tips.
 
Tom White has done nothing wrong EXCEPT provide a subsequent follow up to his tweet etc saying he finds the whole thing bonkers and unlikely to come off.

The fact he hasn't done that, and is now doubling down with it at Roker Report, is what is causing this hysteria.

Him reporting it and then not dismissing it as nonsense (probably because he's holding out for it coming through so he gets credibility), is what is giving this way more credibility than it deserves.

He has done something wrong though.

If he claims to be a journalist, then he should do what a journalist does. Minimum double check, and in profile cases, triple cross check.

Clearly he is not doing anything of the kind. And even if today's definition of a journalist means he is one, he most certainly is not what a journalist should be , used to be, or should aspire to be.

Anyone can pass half checked gossip on. It seems more checks are done by people who post stuff on here, and this is a gossip forum.
 
I am staggered this is still rumbling on in the 'media'. It was put to bed within a couple of hours. When I first read I laughed out loud and moved on in my own head. The advent of the internet has allowed anybody with an internet connection to write opinion pieces, or spread 'news'. There are no qualifications needed, nor it seems a degree of common sense. @Smug in Boots has mentioned the great Doug Weatherall on here recently. I dont imagine for one minute he would be giving this story any ink whatsoever. There are still some good journalists out there, but they are dwindling number.
 
He has done something wrong though.

If he claims to be a journalist, then he should do what a journalist does. Minimum double check, and in profile cases, triple cross check.

Clearly he is not doing anything of the kind. And even if today's definition of a journalist means he is one, he most certainly is not what a journalist should be , used to be, or should aspire to be.

Anyone can pass half checked gossip on. It seems more checks are done by people who post stuff on here, and this is a gossip forum.

I'd normally agree. But this isn't a normal situation.

If he has a purchaser and a seller in a transaction both telling him its happening, and he's seen them together discussing it, that IS a triple cross-check.

There's no way he can prove they're lying.
 
No your right but one look and see the bankruptcy’s then you’d keep quiet

And this is why I think his only mistake is that he hasn't followed up his tweet(s) with a final one saying "Looking at their history, this seems like a complete non-starter, but it shows some of the games being played" or something like that

Instead he's acted, and is continuing to act, like it might happen.

which all that is doing is giving it credibility and giving them further publicity
 
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It's obvious that "someone" loves dropping little bullshit executives to media outlets just for seemingly a laugh. "Someone" leaked a story that the party "Someone" leaked it too, got t-shirts printed, because why wouldn't not believe "Someone" because of the position they had? "Someone" has lead Tom up the garden path good and propper.
 
It should never have had the credibility for the likes of Tom and Roker Report to pickup.

How it should have gone was CM and SD completed the basic due diligence on the group, saw the absolute lunacy of the business model, lack of experience and bankruptcies behind the group and left it at that.

The group could have contacted Tom all they liked but without that all important “come on” from SD and CM Tom would have wished them luck and dismissed them.

Surely it has got credibility as SD and CM are letting it progress and taking it seriously
 
I think everyone is is laying into Tom totally unfairly.

If there are groups actively engaged in trying to buy Sunderland or a share in Sunderland and the people selling the shares are actively engaging with them and agreeing a price then I want to know that, and given the amount of conversation on here and RTG about ownership issues I suggest many more would want to know that.
 
The stick Tom White is getting is utterly ridiculous. He's not a journalist in the traditional sense but through his job he gets info.
He's clearly stated he's waited and waited to see if there is anything to it, then he's relayed that info with details of how he got it.

He's never said if he's for or against it either.