1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Dunder Mifflin

    Dunder Mifflin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    6,161
    Research perhaps, bankruptcies all over the shop from the main man but if he’s been given an “exclusive” then of course you’re inclined to break it.

    However, he’s been played by Methven here, IMO.
     
    #46901
  2. Carl and the Passions

    Carl and the Passions Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2020
    Messages:
    472
    Likes Received:
    685
    He’s a presenter not a journalist. Crucial distinction.
     
    #46902
  3. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    10,342
    Yep. Think RR appears desperate to get something right, or get it early.

    They are misunderstanding their jobs and roles, such as they are. They are a fan site, that's all, not Rueters .

    You would think they might have learned by now.
     
    #46903
  4. Young Ted

    Young Ted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    12,062
    Well all the more to make sure but I’d say most presenters have some journalist back ground
     
    #46904
  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,815
    Likes Received:
    150,393
    That's exactly what I'm hoping for/expecting.

    Despite what some think I believe KLD is a sharp operator surrounded by sharp operators.

    Methven's position is seriously shaky. He has nothing to offer but a handful of shares with no influence, seat on the board or even any value unless they're sold on for a profit.

    Donald is little better off but there's a chance he can sell 'into the family' if he gets real with the price.

    It's more likely that KLD would overpay Sartori, for his, than pay Donald's price, even at market value.

    Unlike other buyers KLD/MLD don't have to fork out half a million on due diligence, solicitors, etc.

    In the meantime it's business as usual.
     
    #46905
  6. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    25,995
    Likes Received:
    114,547
    Talking about beaches . . . . she's probably a right one <whistle>
    please log in to view this image
     
    #46906
  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,815
    Likes Received:
    150,393
    That's fantastic mate.

    We've been here since February but our exploring has been mainly work related.

    The grandkids will appreciate everyone's tips.
     
    #46907
    Whittylad and Snaggey like this.
  8. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    10,342
    He has done something wrong though.

    If he claims to be a journalist, then he should do what a journalist does. Minimum double check, and in profile cases, triple cross check.

    Clearly he is not doing anything of the kind. And even if today's definition of a journalist means he is one, he most certainly is not what a journalist should be , used to be, or should aspire to be.

    Anyone can pass half checked gossip on. It seems more checks are done by people who post stuff on here, and this is a gossip forum.
     
    #46908
  9. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2020
    Messages:
    10,557
    Likes Received:
    38,378
    I am staggered this is still rumbling on in the 'media'. It was put to bed within a couple of hours. When I first read I laughed out loud and moved on in my own head. The advent of the internet has allowed anybody with an internet connection to write opinion pieces, or spread 'news'. There are no qualifications needed, nor it seems a degree of common sense. @Smug in Boots has mentioned the great Doug Weatherall on here recently. I dont imagine for one minute he would be giving this story any ink whatsoever. There are still some good journalists out there, but they are dwindling number.
     
    #46909
  10. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,793
    Likes Received:
    45,816
    I'd normally agree. But this isn't a normal situation.

    If he has a purchaser and a seller in a transaction both telling him its happening, and he's seen them together discussing it, that IS a triple cross-check.

    There's no way he can prove they're lying.
     
    #46910

  11. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    7,028
    Likes Received:
    6,867
    Many presenters are qualified journalists.

    "Tom was then given another opportunity to become a reporting journalist for Sky Sports still. A while after he then became one of the first hosts of the, new at the time, Sky Sports Radio in Leeds."
     
    #46911
  12. Young Ted

    Young Ted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    12,062
    No your right but one look and see the bankruptcy’s then you’d keep quiet
     
    #46912
  13. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,793
    Likes Received:
    45,816
    And this is why I think his only mistake is that he hasn't followed up his tweet(s) with a final one saying "Looking at their history, this seems like a complete non-starter, but it shows some of the games being played" or something like that

    Instead he's acted, and is continuing to act, like it might happen.

    which all that is doing is giving it credibility and giving them further publicity
     
    #46913
    DH4 and Young Ted like this.
  14. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2020
    Messages:
    7,531
    Likes Received:
    16,624
    It's obvious that "someone" loves dropping little bullshit executives to media outlets just for seemingly a laugh. "Someone" leaked a story that the party "Someone" leaked it too, got t-shirts printed, because why wouldn't not believe "Someone" because of the position they had? "Someone" has lead Tom up the garden path good and propper.
     
    #46914
    C Montgomery Burns and Young Ted like this.
  15. ned_werby

    ned_werby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    1,102
    Likes Received:
    2,105
    gadzooks
     
    #46915
    C Montgomery Burns likes this.
  16. Zidane

    Zidane Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    1,565
    Surely it has got credibility as SD and CM are letting it progress and taking it seriously
     
    #46916
  17. Zidane

    Zidane Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    1,565
    I think everyone is is laying into Tom totally unfairly.

    If there are groups actively engaged in trying to buy Sunderland or a share in Sunderland and the people selling the shares are actively engaging with them and agreeing a price then I want to know that, and given the amount of conversation on here and RTG about ownership issues I suggest many more would want to know that.
     
    #46917
  18. Rocky

    Rocky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    832
    Likes Received:
    1,790
    The stick Tom White is getting is utterly ridiculous. He's not a journalist in the traditional sense but through his job he gets info.
    He's clearly stated he's waited and waited to see if there is anything to it, then he's relayed that info with details of how he got it.

    He's never said if he's for or against it either.
     
    #46918
  19. Wackyjacky

    Wackyjacky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2019
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    1,043
    Discovered Kippford when staying at Castle Douglas just before the pandemic, love the place. Planning to go back up again.
     
    #46919
  20. Mick Sterbs

    Mick Sterbs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2019
    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    2,315
    He calls himself a journalist in his statement to Roker Report. Quick read of his bio though and it only mentions a degree in media presentation or something like that.
     
    #46920

Share This Page