S.A.F.C. - the future

[Prehab26]

Thought they were a bit more business savvy than that.

Who knows what exactly went on mate. It's a shame like. He was expected to be the man mind. Looks like we have moved on now though.

 

[Prehab26]

I don't believe the excuse that was rolled out. For a guy who is not working and many top quality managers out there looking for work, he apparently says he doesn't want to drop to league 1 at this stage in his career.... What career, you're out of work mate..doesn't make sense

Because it's come from Gus himself to save face. Just a token statement.

 

[Danny Dichio]

It’s going to be Cowley he’s really good mates with Rodwell

 

[Smug in Boots]

I'm struggling to understand all this. When Parky was fired on Sunday, the logical assumption was that this was the work of the new owners,who would have acted in readiness for a replacement coming in,which is how it seemed as though it was playing out yesterday. So, why would they take that action without having someone else lined up ready to join? They must have had an agreement with someone....maybe Poyet,maybe not....and they surely must have had a signature on a contract,not just a word of mouth? Anything else would be blisteringly naive?

Sartori would believe he could take the word of Poyet.

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

Who knows what exactly went on mate. It's a shame like. He was expected to be the man mind. Looks like we have moved on now though.

Yeah,let's hope so. See what today brings. Hope your info is correct and we get something positive for once. Another day in the life of a Sunderland fan coming up!

 

[6inarow]

I don't believe the excuse that was rolled out. For a guy who is not working and many top quality managers out there looking for work, he apparently says he doesn't want to drop to league 1 at this stage in his career.... What career, you're out of work mate..doesn't make sense

Thing is, I watched his Pod yesterday off a couple of months ago and he made a point that he wasnt looking for a club or a club in a top league...he was looking for the right people to work with...Obviously the ideal employer for him to work for would have been Sartori but the DOF may have been the reason to turn it down without a doubt

 

[Confucius]

TBH I got a message off someone yday after all the Gus bollocks saying tomorrow should see some major announcements / appointments. Let's see if guess.

After the Gus carry on who knows ha.

Was it Bob that messaged you or does he have the same source. He reckons DOF and manager today, they have moved quickly if that is the case

 

[Prehab26]

Was it Bob that messaged you or does he have the same source. He reckons DOF and manager today, they have moved quickly if that is the case

Had a few of Bob recently but had one of someome I know personally too.

 

[Blond Bombshell]

I'm struggling to understand all this. When Parky was fired on Sunday, the logical assumption was that this was the work of the new owners,who would have acted in readiness for a replacement coming in,which is how it seemed as though it was playing out yesterday. So, why would they take that action without having someone else lined up ready to join? They must have had an agreement with someone....maybe Poyet,maybe not....and they surely must have had a signature on a contract,not just a word of mouth? Anything else would be blisteringly naive?

Thought the clearing of the dead wood was always the responsibility of the old regeme so the new owner's wherent sullied with all the mess?

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

Sartori would believe he could take the word of Poyet.

Well,if that's what happened,blisteringly naive is what it is. Can't believe an experienced businessman with deals going on in a variety of countries over many years would get himself into that position......mate or no mate.

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

Thought the clearing of the dead wood was always the responsibility of the old regeme so the new owner's wherent sullied with all the mess?

That's how it seemed when Short sold to Donald and Coleman went...not sure this time.

 

[6inarow]

Was it Bob that messaged you or does he have the same source. He reckons DOF and manager today, they have moved quickly if that is the case

As we know the world of Football moves fast, I think (I know its not the Sunderland way) that we would have had a plan B - C and D for these appointments especially if the new regime is making these calls......If you can sign half a dozen players in the last hour of the transfer window I would like to think any appointment as major as a manager we would have done major due diligence on.........of course this is Sunderland though

I wouldnt have thought we started looking the minute after PP was sacked

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

As we know the world of Football moves fast, I think (I know its not the Sunderland way) that we would have had a plan B - C and D for these appointments especially if the new regime is making these calls......If you can sign half a dozen players in the last hour of the transfer window I would like to think any appointment as major as a manager we would have done major due diligence on.........of course this is Sunderland though

I wouldnt have thought we started looking the minute after PP was sacked

Agree. You'd have thought,and I think we all believed,that the key appointments had all been sorted,with,you would assume, water-tight contracts signed and sealed.
When we heard the news of PP departure,we can be forgiven for thinking that was the first step in an already agreed programme.
I'm forgetting that this is SAFC and the normal rules of logic and common sense simply don't apply to us!

 

[Comfy]

This club really tugs at your heart, if what daft Bob said over the road that a new manager and dof to be announced today is correct is there a chance it’ll be someone not mentioned yet. Let’s face it the club over the past year has done a very good job of hiding the new owners names, could we see a surprise appointment.

 

[The Norton Cat]

It wasn't his first job in football though. He started coaching in the 90's, was assistant to Robson at Porto where they won the league and cup and followed Robson to Barca where they won the Cup winners Cup and Spanish cup. He stayed at Barca when Robson left and was the Van Gall's assistant for two years and they won the league twice. It wasn't like he went from nowhere to a manager's job so my guess is, with a background like that, the Benfica players would have been canny about it. They certainly wouldn't have had to ask who he was.

He went from being a translator to coach to manager. He's still referred to as the translator at Barcelona. He had to show ability and thats what counted. Not where he'd been before. He built a reputation as the Cowleys are doing. Of course, it makes complete sense that managers who have established a team in League 1 and were then taken on by a team in the division above aren't good enough for a team in League 1.

 

[The Norton Cat]

Can you imagine the likes of mcgeady and danny graham been told how to play football off an ex PE teacher

Bebeto, Romario, Dunga, Rai, Tafferel etc were fine with it.

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

This club really tugs at your heart, if what daft Bob said over the road that a new manager and dof to be announced today is correct is there a chance it’ll be someone not mentioned yet. Let’s face it the club over the past year has done a very good job of hiding the new owners names, could we see a surprise appointment.

It'll be incredible if,after Poyet was the man lined up but had betrayed trust placed in him,( if that's what has happened?), yesterday afternoon,we are able to announce the appointment of the right person for the job less than 24 hours later. Just hope it isn't a temporary stop gap.

 

[6inarow]

Agree. You'd have thought,and I think we all believed,that the key appointments had all been sorted,with,you would assume, water-tight contracts signed and sealed.
When we heard the news of PP departure,we can be forgiven for thinking that was the first step in an already agreed programme.
I'm forgetting that this is SAFC and the normal rules of logic and common sense simply don't apply to us!

Unfortunately we have become accustomed to failure of epic proportions......'The Sunderland way' of running a football club now is just a well known little saying connected with our club as 'The famous Roker Roar'

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Cowley’s job.

 

[Disco down under]

Crazy suggestion, perhaps.

Should we start giving bits of news their own posts?

This thing is getting a bit difficult to navigate when there is 40+ pages a day.