S.A.F.C. - the future

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Bob Cheval said:
In fairness to SD/CM, they always said the plan was to stabilise the club, get promoted then seek investors who could finance a return to the PL.

They obviously failed in the second objective, I would suggest they didn’t totally fail in the first objective although slashing all costs to the bone is not sustainable. But it would seem they successfully managed the final one.

Were they any good at running a football club? No. But let’s not pretend it was already well run when they turned up. Big picture - they managed to stop the club being a candidate for administration and found wealthy new owners. Overall, that counts as a success in my view.
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Overall Hitler got a lot of things right.

Took a country on it's knees financially, riddled with warring factions and united the whole country ...

... Donald has made us worse than when he arrived, appointed a dreary manager and replaced young prospects with has been bench warmers.

The sooner he's gone the better, if he stayed another two years he could finish us off.

He hasn't attracted wealthy new owners, the club, the history and the support have done done that.

If he had Fleetwood in the same position they wouldn't touch us with a bargepole.
 
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Bob Cheval said:
In fairness to SD/CM, they always said the plan was to stabilise the club, get promoted then seek investors who could finance a return to the PL.

They obviously failed in the second objective, I would suggest they didn’t totally fail in the first objective although slashing all costs to the bone is not sustainable. But it would seem they successfully managed the final one.

Were they any good at running a football club? No. But let’s not pretend it was already well run when they turned up. Big picture - they managed to stop the club being a candidate for administration and found wealthy new owners. Overall, that counts as a success in my view.
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They had a job to do getting rid of excessive staff and costs but I think it was overdone in the case of the academy , the loss of so many promising youngsters is heartbreaking and we received a pittance in compensation - they could have been our future . The takeover will I hope give us the opportunity to regenerate the academy and in time produce more homegrown players for the team and stop the influx of journeymen and passed their best players that have made their way to the SOL . Elsewhere within the club some vastly over staffed departments needed trimming and were , unfortunately Stewart Donald found jobs for his pals and negated some of the savings .
 
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Washysafc said:
Not after the new year, no free movement from within the EU, so they will need UK grandparents.
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You've got to wonder how they are going to manage this in the FA and EFL. Loads of non-uk players who aren't regular internationals infest our teams throughout the league's. Are they gonna make special dispensation for those already here and have been a while, what are the cut off points going to be, what are the new regulations behind work permits going to be......
Loads of questions that need answering and need doing so very very soon.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
In all honesty mate, this is what I know.

I initially got absolutely nothing from the SOF although I do know a couple of journalists, one I'd say is a friend. The following is paraphrasing what she told me this week, once things started to leak.

This is massive for us, these people are serious and have a huge contact book. They're well known in Monaco, Russia, Switzerland, Belgium, etc.

They're the kind of people who'll attract huge attention and I'm sure we'll see an immediate boost. I dont think it's actually dawned on people just how big this is.

If it wasn't for the FPP interest people would be looking at this much differently imo.

That's what I do know but here's a very slightly informed guess.

People like these find ways around 'planning permission' so tend to rub some people up the wrong way. It's my guess that spending limits will be circumvented by using the loan system, etc.

This is going to get really interesting once the full details are known <party>
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Yes, Harvard graduate with a point to prove with rich buddies, and knows about hardcore support from marseilles- if you were him you couldnt let it fail could you.
 
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Smiler said:
You've got to wonder how they are going to manage this in the FA and EFL. Loads of non-uk players who aren't regular internationals infest our teams throughout the league's. Are they gonna make special dispensation for those already here and have been a while, what are the cut off points going to be, what are the new regulations behind work permits going to be......
Loads of questions that need answering and need doing so very very soon.
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I will guess everything carries on as it always does and the scaremongers disappear back under their rocks.<ok>
 
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rooch 3 said:
I will guess everything carries on as it always does and the scaremongers disappear back under their rocks.<ok>
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The government want it to carry on thats the thing. It was made to sound like Brexit was about controlling immigration but actually its worth far too much money to the government including from football. They will find a way for it to continue thats for sure
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Overall Hitler got a lot of things right.

Took a country on it's knees financially, riddled with warring factions and united the whole country ...

... Donald has made us worse than when he arrived, appointed a dreary manager and replaced young prospects with has been bench warmers.

The sooner he's gone the better, if he stayed another two years he could finish us off.

He hasn't attracted wealthy new owners, the club, the history and the support have done done that.

If he had Fleetwood in the same position they wouldn't touch us with a bargepole.
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Does the imminent takeover mean your normal Sunday update is not going to happen , it kept our spirits up waiting for you to tell us whatever snippets you received . Their is still a lot of information outstanding to complete the jigsaw , over to you Smug .
 
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Bigmackem said:
Does the imminent takeover mean your normal Sunday update is not going to happen , it kept our spirits up waiting for you to tell us whatever snippets you received . Their is still a lot of information outstanding to complete the jigsaw , over to you Smug .
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Aye you do realise smug you are no longer needed you will just turn into a normal human again.<laugh><ok>
 
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Bigmackem said:
Does the imminent takeover mean your normal Sunday update is not going to happen , it kept our spirits up waiting for you to tell us whatever snippets you received . Their is still a lot of information outstanding to complete the jigsaw , over to you Smug .
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And if there’s nothing forthcoming just make something up to keep us happy cheers
 
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Bigmackem said:
Does the imminent takeover mean your normal Sunday update is not going to happen , it kept our spirits up waiting for you to tell us whatever snippets you received . Their is still a lot of information outstanding to complete the jigsaw , over to you Smug .
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I always love to see your post pop up mate, makes my day <laugh>

I'm still in contact and messaged the lad earlier, no response yet. He travels a lot on business so it depends on the time zone he's in. The biggest disappointment is when he messages 'hello' in the early hours and I miss him.

Anyway, while your on I'll give you a little treasure hunt. If you check back, on the forums, for any mentions of Tonna and Exagon you'll find a mate of mine who knows the Dreyfus family through Robert when he was at a huge pharmaceutical research company. Mr Tonna will become more useful as time goes by for info. I've asked a few little questions but he's an extremely private, and cautious, fella so I'm not going to swamp him with questions. I need to keep my powder dry.

Plus we really like him, he's a wonderful man.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I always love to see your post pop up mate, makes my day <laugh>

I'm still in contact and messaged the lad earlier, no response yet. He travels a lot on business so it depends on the time zone he's in. The biggest disappointment is when he messages 'hello' in the early hours and I miss him.

Anyway, while your on I'll give you a little treasure hunt. If you check back, on the forums, for any mentions of Tonna and Exagon you'll find a mate of mine who knows the Dreyfus family through Robert when he was at a huge pharmaceutical research company. Mr Tonna will become more useful as time goes by for info. I've asked a few little questions but he's an extremely private, and cautious, fella so I'm not going to swamp him with questions. I need to keep my powder dry.

Plus we really like him, he's a wonderful man.
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Aye and so are you ! Treasure hunts seem like work , i’m retired you know !
 
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Gatesy said:
Exactly. If Boro could attract Juninho, Emerson, Ravanelli etc then we can attract top players provided we are no longer a laughing stock inside the board room.
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Yeah, but they all left pretty quickly as well, pretty much as soon as they could. And they were all very well paid at the time as well to get them there
 
Guy Incognito said:
Yeah, but they all left pretty quickly as well, pretty much as soon as they could. And they were all very well paid at the time as well to get them there
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I don't know mate, I'm sure Juninho and Emerson stayed with them in the championship and helped them go straight back up? Can't be sure about others but I'm certain them 2 did.
 
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