S.A.F.C. - the future

[Sunderpitt]

Agents are sadly ruining football and should be banned from having so much influence. Think the agents will try fleece the club more if they believe club has money otherwise they'll tell the agent to move elsewhere as they have too much power these days as proved by Maja.

I would like to know the details about about Maja's contract offers and when and if they were made. Personally I believe Donald played silly sods and delayed renewing Maja's contract offer against Ross's wishes. Then when Donald got round to it, other offers were coming in.
Then to compound the mistake, Donald went out and bought Grigg, again against Ross's advice.
Ross I reckon partly lost his job by having to carry the can for Donald's wrong decisions.

 

[Smug in Boots]

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I have it from a very good source that William Storey is about to create history with Sunderland AFC ...

... when he becomes the first person, in EFL history, to fail their owners and directors test.

 

[Alebeac]

There was the odd game last season when confidence was high that his distribution was superb so he had it in him. Poyet would get it out of him. He made Catts like Zinade (a bit like Zidane)

Didn't Poyet drop Catts for Bridcutt who he signed along with that world beating winger Buckley?

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

I have it from a very good source that William Storey is about to create history with Sunderland AFC ...

... when he becomes the first person, in EFL history, to fail their owners and directors test.

And that'll be quite some achievement considering this is footage of the normal "rigorous" testing the EFL carry out

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[rooch 3]

I would like to know the details about about Maja's contract offers and when and if they were made. Personally I believe Donald played silly sods and delayed renewing Maja's contract offer against Ross's wishes. Then when Donald got round to it, other offers were coming in.
Then to compound the mistake, Donald went out and bought Grigg, again against Ross's advice.
Ross I reckon partly lost his job by having to carry the can for Donald's wrong decisions.

This is why I can’t understand why managers who get the chop don’t speak out and tell the truth they prefer just to go to the next job and get treated just the same.

 

[Pure River Slut]

Didn't Poyet drop Catts for Bridcutt who he signed along with that world beating winger Buckley?

On occasions he did yes, when he was playing ****e. Nowt wrong with that.

 

[Pure River Slut]

I would like to know the details about about Maja's contract offers and when and if they were made. Personally I believe Donald played silly sods and delayed renewing Maja's contract offer against Ross's wishes. Then when Donald got round to it, other offers were coming in.
Then to compound the mistake, Donald went out and bought Grigg, again against Ross's advice.
Ross I reckon partly lost his job by having to carry the can for Donald's wrong decisions.

if you watch Netflix again you’ll see them saying he can wait and sweat or words similar to that. The whole thing was done with ego and arrogance. They’ll cave in, he’s a lucky boy etc . I’m sure Maja’s agent is also a twat but that means there were twats on both sides.

 

[Alebeac]

On occasions he did yes, when he was playing ****e. Nowt wrong with that.

True, but I may be wrong didn't he bring in Bridcutt and immediately dropped CakItts fo

On occasions he did yes, when he was playing ****e. Nowt wrong with that.

I was under the impression he signed Bridcutt and immediately replaced Catts with him.
At the end of the day though he got us to Wembley and for a while we played some good stuff.

 

[Smug in Boots]

And that'll be quite some achievement considering this is footage of the normal "rigorous" testing the EFL carry out

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[Zidane]

I would like to know the details about about Maja's contract offers and when and if they were made. Personally I believe Donald played silly sods and delayed renewing Maja's contract offer against Ross's wishes. Then when Donald got round to it, other offers were coming in.
Then to compound the mistake, Donald went out and bought Grigg, again against Ross's advice.
Ross I reckon partly lost his job by having to carry the can for Donald's wrong decisions.

My view is that Madrox came in and genuinely believed the piss take ends here plan and that younguns would walk over broken glass to play for us etc and set off on that path. This led to some early disasters like Maja leaving.

However, they probably got a sharp wake-up call and soon discovered why Ellis had to blow £30m a season on ****e, and thats because no-one actually wants to play for Sunderland unless the wages are too much to turn down or your other offers are even worse, and that's been the case here for literally several decades.

The new owners will have exactly the same problem as well, and until someone works out a clever way of getting around the geography, our image etc its going to be a replay of the last 40 years and expensive for the poor someone who has to pay for the upwards stage thats next in the cycle

 

[The Redbaron]

My view is that Madrox came in and genuinely believed the piss take ends here plan and that younguns would walk over broken glass to play for us etc and set off on that path. This led to some early disasters like Maja leaving.

However, they probably got a sharp wake-up call and soon discovered why Ellis had to blow £30m a season on ****e, and thats because no-one actually wants to play for Sunderland unless the wages are too much to turn down or your other offers are even worse, and that's been the case here for literally several decades.

The new owners will have exactly the same problem as well, and until someone works out a clever way of getting around the geography, our image etc its going to be a replay of the last 40 years and expensive for the poor someone who has to pay for the upwards stage thats next in the cycle

Its feck all to do with the Geography....its about Competence, Ethos and opportunity. Money will be in there at some stage but a player ,any player who sees a sound set up is easier to bring in if they see they have a chance

 

[Bob Cheval]

In fairness to SD/CM, they always said the plan was to stabilise the club, get promoted then seek investors who could finance a return to the PL.

They obviously failed in the second objective, I would suggest they didn’t totally fail in the first objective although slashing all costs to the bone is not sustainable. But it would seem they successfully managed the final one.

Were they any good at running a football club? No. But let’s not pretend it was already well run when they turned up. Big picture - they managed to stop the club being a candidate for administration and found wealthy new owners. Overall, that counts as a success in my view.

 

[Alebeac]

My view is that Madrox came in and genuinely believed the piss take ends here plan and that younguns would walk over broken glass to play for us etc and set off on that path. This led to some early disasters like Maja leaving.

However, they probably got a sharp wake-up call and soon discovered why Ellis had to blow £30m a season on ****e, and thats because no-one actually wants to play for Sunderland unless the wages are too much to turn down or your other offers are even worse, and that's been the case here for literally several decades.

The new owners will have exactly the same problem as well, and until someone works out a clever way of getting around the geography, our image etc its going to be a replay of the last 40 years and expensive for the poor someone who has to pay for the upwards stage thats next in the cycle

I think it's image more than our location, look how the Mags and Boro managed to bring in quality while were signing dross. I think it just needs proper football people to run our club.

 

[D-K]

I think it's image more than our location, look how the Mags and Boro managed to bring in quality while were signing dross. I think it just needs proper football people to run our club.

Exactly. If Boro could attract Juninho, Emerson, Ravanelli etc then we can attract top players provided we are no longer a laughing stock inside the board room.

 

[rowley]

I think it's image more than our location, look how the Mags and Boro managed to bring in quality while were signing dross. I think it just needs proper football people to run our club.

They did sign some big names, but they were paying very big salaries. Both Gibson, and at one point Shepherd conceded that it was almost the only way to get some players to move here.

 

[Jme]

In fairness to SD/CM, they always said the plan was to stabilise the club, get promoted then seek investors who could finance a return to the PL.

They obviously failed in the second objective, I would suggest they didn’t totally fail in the first objective although slashing all costs to the bone is not sustainable. But it would seem they successfully managed the final one.

Were they any good at running a football club? No. But let’s not pretend it was already well run when they turned up. Big picture - they managed to stop the club being a candidate for administration and found wealthy new owners. Overall, that counts as a success in my view.

I agree with all of that plus ,would add that to stop the financial disaster and turnaround the playing side at the same time wasn't achievable. They sold the challenge to us wrong ...

 

[Robref62]

if you watch Netflix again you’ll see them saying he can wait and sweat or words similar to that. The whole thing was done with ego and arrogance. They’ll cave in, he’s a lucky boy etc . I’m sure Maja’s agent is also a twat but that means there were twats on both sides.

Tbf. I dont blame the club for the maja situation his agent drove it and knew he would get a better deal moving him abroad.
A lot of **** has went the clubs way and deservedly so. I vindicate them on the whole in the Maja deal.

 

[Garrincha's Goat]

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[Bank of England 2]

Unpopular as it is that’s why I think people need to cut Dobson some slack. Under say Poyet I think we’d see what he’s made of. As a combative midfielder which is what Parkinson wants its not playing to his strengths but he has to do it to get a game. At his age and experience he fits the bill for development but rather than the fat Maguire’s and *** ash Powers and the manager getting the stick he gets it. People need to cut him some slack.

You're right mate. He's still young and learning, and putting him in the middle of the park with Power isn't helping him.

 

[Sunderpitt]

My view is that Madrox came in and genuinely believed the piss take ends here plan and that younguns would walk over broken glass to play for us etc and set off on that path. This led to some early disasters like Maja leaving.

However, they probably got a sharp wake-up call and soon discovered why Ellis had to blow £30m a season on ****e, and thats because no-one actually wants to play for Sunderland unless the wages are too much to turn down or your other offers are even worse, and that's been the case here for literally several decades.

The new owners will have exactly the same problem as well, and until someone works out a clever way of getting around the geography, our image etc its going to be a replay of the last 40 years and expensive for the poor someone who has to pay for the upwards stage thats next in the cycle

There us certainly some truth in what you say, some overseas players prefer the bright lights of London.

However Liverpool and Manchester are dumps also. This is overcome by paying lots as manure, chitty and the bindippers do!