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Charlie Methven definitely doesn't sound like he's going anywhere.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rhaul-risks-power-grab-by-rich-minister-warns

Owners of English soccer’s lower-tier professional clubs are responding warmly to a plan that would deliver them a bigger share of major teams’ revenue, even as the U.K. government and the sport’s top league raise concerns about the proposal.

Under the “Project Big Picture” plan, 25% of the wealthy English Premier League’s 3 billion pounds ($3.9 billion) a year in broadcast revenue would be redistributed to the 72 smaller English Football League teams that form the base of England’s so-called soccer pyramid. Those clubs, reeling from the suspension of stadium attendance during the Covid-19 pandemic, see that as a lifeline.

The proposal is backed in part by two of the Premier League’s biggest names, Liverpool owner John Henry and Manchester United owner Joel Glazer. “It looks like two American billionaires have come up with an answer to the inequalities in our game that is very important,” said Charles Grant, director of third-tier team Crewe Alexandra.

“This is the first serious attempt that we have seen to answer the major strategic issues facing the football pyramid,” Charlie Methven, the co-owner of third-tier team Sunderland, said via email.

The plan also includes a 250 million-pound rescue fund to bolster clubs as their lack of ticket revenue drags on. But it would also reduce the number of teams in the Premier League to 18 from 20, and concentrate decision-making power in nine clubs -- including Henry’s and Glazer’s.

“I’m quite skeptical about this,” Oliver Dowden, a U.K. secretary of state whose remit includes sports, said on Monday. “I’m afraid if we keep having these backroom deals and all these other things going on, we will have to look again at the underlying governance of football.”

Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s spokesman, James Slack, said on a conference call with reporters that the proposal “clearly” lacks support throughout the Premier League.

The Premier League itself blasted the proposal in a statement Sunday, saying some of the suggested changes “could have a damaging impact on the whole game.”

EFL Chairman Rick Parry will try to explain the plans to his 72 teams during the week. Ultimately, any changes will need the support of 14 teams out of the Premier League’s 20.

Sunderland’s Methven urged Dowden and the Premier League to offer their own rescue plan. “Because as the rest of us sit here trying to save clubs with big cost bases and almost no revenues,” he said, “they have spent three months doing precisely nothing to help except hold endless cozy meetings the only purpose of which seems to be to kick the can down the road, through the long grass and into a ditch, preferably never to be seen again.”
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Southern Adam said:
I don't know. But Donald has shown time and time again that there are only 2 things that are important to him - money and what people think of him.

There just feels like there's been no heat or concerted pressure on him or the club to be in dialogue for quite a while.

I'm not for one second suggesting anything on social media will speed up a takeover - I just want the club to communicate with us.
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100% mate, I said earlier in the thread, a 1 line statement of anything would suffice from the club if they are in discussions about selling up or not. This wouldnt compromise an NDA and would put a stop to the endless speculation that to what we have been told from Nick Barnes who has been fed his info from SAFC
 
Southern Adam said:
Charlie Methven definitely doesn't sound like he's going anywhere.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rhaul-risks-power-grab-by-rich-minister-warns
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In all honesty its been a case of 'who blinks first' to save the EFL between the Premier League and the Government, The premier league have made their move......this has 100% has no chance of happening in its current format, could just be a tactic for it to get voted down so the Government have to do a bail out
 
I'm more concerned that the only thing us fans are hearing about on any topic regarding the club and its finances or its ownership at the moment is from a very minority shareholder who resigned from the board nearly a year ago and otherwise has nothing to do with running the club.

And considering we are all hoping he's going pretty soon, his quotes everywhere are really suggesting he isn't.
 
media pressure. We may be "just" a League One club but probably have more history than the rest of the League put together. The local media are a ****ing disgrace, milking the NUFC takeover etc and nothing worth mentioning on ours. Posters on RTG would accuse you of having red specs on, for even suggesting there is a news bias, even when it is right in front of their eyes. Its so blatant and we need to get into them and **** them up like the good old days. There is nothing Regional at all about them ****stains
 
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6inarow said:
@Ghandifloss over the road (RAWA rep) is suggesting that there are plans to ramp up the pressure in the next week or so
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I don't think there's anything concrete yet, but there's every chance pressure will start being applied soon. How that looks and when is still up for discussion and I guess partly depends on the club, but the survey was pretty unanimous that the fans want more pressure out on, and RAWA and there to represent the fans. For me, the rumour that safc would back this big picture proposal would, if true, be a disgrace and I'd certainly be telling the committee that I think pressure needs to be massively ramped up
 
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Guinness Guzzler said:
I don't think there's anything concrete yet, but there's every chance pressure will start being applied soon. How that looks and when is still up for discussion and I guess partly depends on the club, but the survey was pretty unanimous that the fans want more pressure out on, and RAWA and there to represent the fans. For me, the rumour that safc would back this big picture proposal would, if true, be a disgrace and I'd certainly be telling the committee that I think pressure needs to be massively ramped up
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Good stuff mate, If its true that Sunderland have come out to back the Premier league offer then everybody who who is currently sitting in a high level position within the club need to publicly shamed and driven out of Sunderland, simple as that, should be no where near out club
 
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I agree that something needs to be done to find out one way or another what is happening within the club but if Donald is ensconced at Oxford and just leaving Roswell to run the club without taking any real interest, what pressure can be applied?
 
6inarow said:
Tbh mate, there are only 3 people who are qualified legally to talk about the


Good stuff mate, If its true that Sunderland have come out to back the Premier league offer then everybody who who is currently sitting in a high level position within the club need to publicly shamed and driven out of Sunderland, simple as that, should be no where near out club
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Couldn't agree more, and have said as much to RAWA (don't think I'm alone in thinking it either). Equally I'm very concerned that there's no takeover in the offing. If they were about to get their money they wouldn't need this. In fact any soon to be owner would tell them to vote against it. The club will be worth even less if there's a much lower glass ceiling in terms of how far we can progress. No way would FPP want to support this, and likely no way would they even want to buy us if there was a chance the big 6 might just get rid of promotion and relegation before we get there. They'd at least have to get us into the top 18 rather than the top 20 which already makes the job harder. And this proposal makes staying up harder if you get there. I don't see how this sort tallies with a near takeover.
 
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Guinness Guzzler said:
Couldn't agree more, and have said as much to RAWA (don't think I'm alone in thinking it either). Equally I'm very concerned that there's no takeover in the offing. If they were about to get their money they wouldn't need this. In fact any soon to be owner would tell them to vote against it. The club will be worth even less if there's a much lower glass ceiling in terms of how far we can progress. No way would FPP want to support this, and likely no way would they even want to buy us if there was a chance the big 6 might just get rid of promotion and relegation before we get there. They'd at least have to get us into the top 18 rather than the top 20 which already makes the job harder. And this proposal makes staying up harder if you get there. I don't see how this sort tallies with a near takeover.
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Yep, as we are all getting more sceptical about any takeover talk actually going on that will obviously be the main topic for the next meeting, but if there actually has been talks with constant delays then this would be just another brick wall delay that would stutter or stop talks. Thing is I dont want to bog this thread down with the Premier league offer but when you think about it, you may be surprised how many clubs would want it. EFL clubs need money now and not after months of negotiations so its a dirty tactic from the Premier League to come up with this as they know a lot of clubs have nowhere to turn.....Im just hopeful that it may be a dirty offer to make the Government do a bail out

Also makes you wonder if the Premier league did consult 'the big 6' about Newcastles takeover
 
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I noticed the government announced a £250 million bail out of theatres, but nothing from football. Regional theatres don't have to ask the Royal Opera House to fund them at the expense of the ROH dictating their future
But this does look like Donald has no intention of leaving. Come on RAWA do your stuff. There is nothing stopping fans turning up for home games to gain media attention. At the moment it looks like Donald has achieved the impossible and made Sunderland a run of the mill football club with no ambition whatsoever.
 
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