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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    @Magnus might be able to solve this
    Sd never had 100%
    Wt did he hold
    Now dose he hold 15% of what he had before
     
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  2. sheepman

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    Poor article cobbled together but with little understanding of how the process works
    Absolutely no way it would have got this far if FPP or their lawyers hadn't been involved

    Very interested to see if they stay involved
     
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  3. sheepman

    sheepman Well-Known Member

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    go for it mate
    At least a little foot tapping while singing the Bob Lee song
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've just gone through it again.

    What he's saying is that a price has been agreed before due diligence has been done.

    Which is basically, "OK I'll give you £22m oh and, btw, do you mind if I have a look at the books to be on the safe side."

    Nonsense.
     
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  5. Andy B

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    Bring it forward 24 hours and complete on the Thursday for my 40th haha
     
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  6. 6inarow

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    He currently holds 74%, Satori 20% and Methven 6%
     
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  7. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    Donald 74%
    Sartori 20%
    Methvin 6%
     
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  8. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    So now sd has 15% 74 = less than 11%
    Is that correct
    It’s 11.1%
     
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  9. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Agree you can’t agree or will agree
    Without due diligence
     
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  10. Magnus

    Magnus Well-Known Member

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    It’s hard one to explain and probably better to come from someone who is an accountant

    but from what it looks like

    is Madrox owns Sunderland

    Madrox % are split
    SD 74%
    JS 20%
    Cm 6%

    who all have the own company’s
    Set up to own that %

    Donald 100% owns the company who has 74%
    JS 100% owns the company who’s owns 20%
    Cm 100% owns the company who’s owns the 6%

    Sorry best way I can explain it <doh><doh>
     
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  11. Northumberland Rocks

    Northumberland Rocks Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic. Hopefully the new owners can get this right!
     
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    Sandy Camel Well-Known Member

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    That Guardian piece is the first media article I've read that said Donald would be keeping a 15% stake. Anyone think it possible this was a deliberate leak to get that out in the open before any official announcement was made. It's a good way to see what reaction the fans have about it and in the main, some disappontment him and Meth keep a minority stake but much more happiness about new owners coming in.
     
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  13. Southern A

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    My guess based on what we’ve seen so far (and it’s a guess) is that Donald is selling 60% of his shares in Madrox to a consortium including KLD and others.

    Sartori keeps his 20%
    Methven keeps his 6% (which has been misreported by the guardian - makes no sense him dropping to 5%)

    Would leave Donald with 14%.

    How that remaining 60% gets split is what I’m interested in. Nobody seems to know that yet (only Roker Report have said it’s all 60% for KLD)
     
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  14. smithy in nl

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    I reakon furhman is one of them.
     
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    I think you looking a bit to much into mate, it looks like you are working out 15% of 74% rather than a straight forward 15% of Madrox which I believe the reports are saying he will have, in essence he selling 59% of his shares in Madrox which leaves him with 15%, I understand tho that your saying 15% if his 100% steak but wich is 74% of Madrox......think I've got that right<doh>
     
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  16. Magnus

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    im sure I read a report before saying JS and the kid to own 60%
    So if that’s true be interesting
    To see what happens with other 20%
     
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  17. Southern A

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    I hope so.

    my issue with that (and I’m using issue very lightly here before people suggest negativity!!!), is that it would dilute either one of Furhman or KLDs equity.

    Let’s assume 40% is JS, CM and SD. That doesn’t leave many ways to split that remaining 60% and leave one controlling party.

    Ideally we want 1 of them to own at least 50% of the company so that they get the deciding vote. Which would mean one of Fuhrman and KLD would need to own less than 10%
     
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  18. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    That’s what the times say - it says Donald is selling them 60%. But Sartori already owns 20%, so that’s 80% total owned between them.
     
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  19. Southern A

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    Another thing to add - I think we can all agree it would make zero sense for the FPP loan to not be paid back. So either they have a stake now or they’re gone. Surely?
     
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  20. Yes but no but

    Yes but no but Well-Known Member

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    I was told last week that Furhman would no longer be involved. The other about mentioning the others linked and we were miles off turned out correct, really hope the info about Furhman isn’t.
     
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