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Smug in Boots said:
'As soon as we're no longer wanted we'll be gone'.
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Smug, as I said to you recently:
I received a reply from close friend of SD. ‘Stewart is well. The whole Sunderland project turned sour and has been a real eye opener for him, his family and friends. Sunderland is a huge club and I suspect even he was surprised by the passion of a one City club. That passion is wonderful and they deserve a team to be proud of. However most Sunderland fans think they have a devine right to be promoted and that’s not the case. Being a people pleaser he doesn’t always help himself and he’s prone to the occasional over promise but some of the vile campaigning against him has probably him him harder than he lets on. Fans understandably judge their clubs solely on on field performance but off the pitch the club is now sustainable. It’s a shame he won’t be remembered for the debt free club they now are considering they were losing £800k a month when he took over. Yes I know Stewart and his team have been talking to several potential buyers but there are a number of time wasters out there who talk the talk but once due diligence is carried out don’t often have the money to back up their claim.’
 
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Starsky said:
Smug, as I said to you recently:
I received a reply from close friend of SD. ‘Stewart is well. The whole Sunderland project turned sour and has been a real eye opener for him, his family and friends. Sunderland is a huge club and I suspect even he was surprised by the passion of a one City club. That passion is wonderful and they deserve a team to be proud of. However most Sunderland fans think they have a devine right to be promoted and that’s not the case. Being a people pleaser he doesn’t always help himself and he’s prone to the occasional over promise but some of the vile campaigning against him has probably him him harder than he lets on. Fans understandably judge their clubs solely on on field performance but off the pitch the club is now sustainable. It’s a shame he won’t be remembered for the debt free club they now are considering they were losing £800k a month when he took over. Yes I know Stewart and his team have been talking to several potential buyers but there are a number of time wasters out there who talk the talk but once due diligence is carried out don’t often have the money to back up their claim.’
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We should be happy for having a debt free club in league one with less income, a salary cap and ****e football. Aye ok. All the cuts do is make us partly more sellable finance wise but then because he’s made **** football decisions we are less sellable league wise. He’s even failed at that.
Actually we should expect promotion - we are a massive club and Donald himself said we would get 100 points then invested no money in players. He’s so up his own arse he can’t accept how ****e he’s been and is clearly turning the tables on the fans
 
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Starsky said:
Smug, as I said to you recently:
I received a reply from close friend of SD. ‘Stewart is well. The whole Sunderland project turned sour and has been a real eye opener for him, his family and friends. Sunderland is a huge club and I suspect even he was surprised by the passion of a one City club. That passion is wonderful and they deserve a team to be proud of. However most Sunderland fans think they have a devine right to be promoted and that’s not the case. Being a people pleaser he doesn’t always help himself and he’s prone to the occasional over promise but some of the vile campaigning against him has probably him him harder than he lets on. Fans understandably judge their clubs solely on on field performance but off the pitch the club is now sustainable. It’s a shame he won’t be remembered for the debt free club they now are considering they were losing £800k a month when he took over. Yes I know Stewart and his team have been talking to several potential buyers but there are a number of time wasters out there who talk the talk but once due diligence is carried out don’t often have the money to back up their claim.’
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Really? Surprised by the passion? Most Sunderland fans think they have a divine right to get promoted? Complete bollocks. The only true part of that statement is that he’s prone to the occasional over promise and that in itself is an understatement. Yes he made the club sustainable but look at how he did it.
 
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Starsky said:
Smug, as I said to you recently:
I received a reply from close friend of SD. ‘Stewart is well. The whole Sunderland project turned sour and has been a real eye opener for him, his family and friends. Sunderland is a huge club and I suspect even he was surprised by the passion of a one City club. That passion is wonderful and they deserve a team to be proud of. However most Sunderland fans think they have a devine right to be promoted and that’s not the case. Being a people pleaser he doesn’t always help himself and he’s prone to the occasional over promise but some of the vile campaigning against him has probably him him harder than he lets on. Fans understandably judge their clubs solely on on field performance but off the pitch the club is now sustainable. It’s a shame he won’t be remembered for the debt free club they now are considering they were losing £800k a month when he took over. Yes I know Stewart and his team have been talking to several potential buyers but there are a number of time wasters out there who talk the talk but once due diligence is carried out don’t often have the money to back up their claim.’
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No-ones denying he got the finances sorted but he did so by cutting the club to the bone and touting all our talented youth players around to get some coin in. That's not being a custodian and protecting the long term assets of the club imo. That's not having the cash to sustain a club of this size with a Cat 1 academy while being in League 1. As for a divine right to be promoted. Nah, but we do expect to be realistic challengers for promotion and we've never really looked like a top two team in the whole time he's been the owner. Don's too small time to see it judging by that divine right comment imo.
 
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Starsky said:
Smug, as I said to you recently:
I received a reply from close friend of SD. ‘Stewart is well. The whole Sunderland project turned sour and has been a real eye opener for him, his family and friends. Sunderland is a huge club and I suspect even he was surprised by the passion of a one City club. That passion is wonderful and they deserve a team to be proud of. However most Sunderland fans think they have a devine right to be promoted and that’s not the case. Being a people pleaser he doesn’t always help himself and he’s prone to the occasional over promise but some of the vile campaigning against him has probably him him harder than he lets on. Fans understandably judge their clubs solely on on field performance but off the pitch the club is now sustainable. It’s a shame he won’t be remembered for the debt free club they now are considering they were losing £800k a month when he took over. Yes I know Stewart and his team have been talking to several potential buyers but there are a number of time wasters out there who talk the talk but once due diligence is carried out don’t often have the money to back up their claim.’
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I'll tell ya what, I'll bake him a nice pie. There, there there.
 
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Evil Jimmy Krankie said:
Kidnapping a young girl apparently.
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So they'd planned it beforhand. They then travelled from Sunderland to Oxford to wait at a bus stop to then escort Don's daughter home to have a chat with Don. Surely they could have missed the whole bus stop bit out and just knocked on for a cuppa in the first place. I'm not sure they thought this through properly.
 
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Sandy Camel said:
So they'd planned it beforhand. They then travelled from Sunderland to Oxford to wait at a bus stop to then escort Don's daughter home to have a chat with Don. Surely they could have missed the whole bus stop bit out and just knocked on for a cuppa in the first place. I'm not sure they thought this through properly.
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Well it would appear that Northerners are not only uneducated in business but haven't fully grasped how to use their time efficiently either :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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Starsky said:
Smug, as I said to you recently:
I received a reply from close friend of SD. ‘Stewart is well. The whole Sunderland project turned sour and has been a real eye opener for him, his family and friends. Sunderland is a huge club and I suspect even he was surprised by the passion of a one City club. That passion is wonderful and they deserve a team to be proud of. However most Sunderland fans think they have a devine right to be promoted and that’s not the case. Being a people pleaser he doesn’t always help himself and he’s prone to the occasional over promise but some of the vile campaigning against him has probably him him harder than he lets on. Fans understandably judge their clubs solely on on field performance but off the pitch the club is now sustainable. It’s a shame he won’t be remembered for the debt free club they now are considering they were losing £800k a month when he took over. Yes I know Stewart and his team have been talking to several potential buyers but there are a number of time wasters out there who talk the talk but once due diligence is carried out don’t often have the money to back up their claim.’
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Sorry mate but I have to disagree with the bit in bold. With the team that was left when we first started in League One most fans expected to get promoted straight back to the Championship - and I was one of them and the fact we didn't lay in the hands of the manager but Donald and Methven had a hand in raising those expectations by going on both the local radio and fans podcasts stating that the club had the "biggest budget in League One and which some clubs within the Championship would be envious of" so even they expected promotion in that first season. And as for his legacy of making the club debt free - cutting costs would've been thanked if they had actually helped the club off the pitch also. Decimating the academy of all its best players without making a fist of trying to keep them (if rumours are to be believed) has set the club back years and not replacing key positions with the proper personnel rather than jobs for the boys has also affected the club. And as for time wasters who want to buy the club - does the name Mark Campbell ring a bell? This is the person who was paraded at Wembley in the directors box and apparently had an office at the AOL BEFORE it was revealed that he didn't have the funds to take the club forward. Now I wonder who allowed that....? I do agree with you on one point and that is Donald was surprised by the passion of the fans towards the club and that's because its inbuilt from the generations before - something he's probably never experienced before at either Oxford or Eastleigh.
 
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Sandy Camel said:
So they'd planned it beforhand. They then travelled from Sunderland to Oxford to wait at a bus stop to then escort Don's daughter home to have a chat with Don. Surely they could have missed the whole bus stop bit out and just knocked on for a cuppa in the first place. I'm not sure they thought this through properly.
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Luckily Donald never rang the SBS to fast line down the bus shelter and takeout the three kidnappers.
 
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Essayyeffcee said:
Sorry mate but I have to disagree with the bit in bold. With the team that was left when we first started in League One most fans expected to get promoted straight back to the Championship - and I was one of them and the fact we didn't lay in the hands of the manager but Donald and Methven had a hand in raising those expectations by going on both the local radio and fans podcasts stating that the club had the "biggest budget in League One and which some clubs within the Championship would be envious of" so even they expected promotion in that first season. And as for his legacy of making the club debt free - cutting costs would've been thanked if they had actually helped the club off the pitch also. Decimating the academy of all its best players without making a fist of trying to keep them (if rumours are to be believed) has set the club back years and not replacing key positions with the proper personnel rather than jobs for the boys has also affected the club. And as for time wasters who want to buy the club - does the name Mark Campbell ring a bell? This is the person who was paraded at Wembley in the directors box and apparently had an office at the AOL BEFORE it was revealed that he didn't have the funds to take the club forward. Now I wonder who allowed that....? I do agree with you on one point and that is Donald was surprised by the passion of the fans towards the club and that's because its inbuilt from the generations before - something he's probably never experienced before at either Oxford or Eastleigh.
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Nailed it marra
 
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