S.A.F.C. - the future

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

There's a poster on RTG, who works at the club, who could post all kinds of useful info.

It would instantly correct a few common misconceptions on there.

He won't post it because he's seen the torrent of abuse you get. (I was attacked by some idiot nobody called Real Madras yesterday despite not having posted for 6 months. Sad little people.)

I can't repeat what the SAFC lad tells me because he'd spot it and stop telling me things.

Such a sad state of affairs.

The Mods are to blame, they're useless.

Clearly you can’t say anything and that’s fine. But from what you’ve heard, are we in for any sort of good news? This bloody club will be the death of me, I swear!!

 

[Smug in Boots]

Clearly you can’t say anything and that’s fine. But from what you’ve heard, are we in for any sort of good news? This bloody club will be the death of me, I swear!!

I'm quite encouraged but Donald is the fly in the ointment.

FPP wanted the club and had serious plans but Donald scuppered that deal.

He's dragging his heels again which is a worry but he definitely wants out.

 

[RIC]

A decent poster has dropped on some info he believes he can trust, so posted it.

He's posted it as he believes genuine Sunderland supporters, currently totally in the dark, would appreciate it.

He's inevitably attacked by the RTG snipers who have f**k all better to do.

He's realised the board is poison and decided not to bother ...

... some people totally miss the point of what a chat forum is.

Well what did he say?

 

[Smug in Boots]

There’s 3 Dubai Billionaires looking to buy the club and Mickey Gray is fronting it. The first bit is also hinted at by a lad who may be a journalist in Dubai who also knew of the FFP interest last year. It and everything else could be bollocks.

 

[Billy Batts]

I'd love him to in a way.

Sadly it would just encourage the gaggle of worthless scumbags, like 'Abu Dhabi', to invade this forum.

These humourless dopes never post any decent threads or opinions, just endless predictable digs.

I really wouldn't want them on here tbh.

It'd be, haha see what ****e they're coming up with over the road. Petty and no need for it.

 

[ISOE II]

Just a slight note of caution, unless I missed it (and I've read the lads posts and I've PMd him because I know him in real life) I don't think he mentioned billionaires. He's said he's heard its Gray and 3 people from Dubai who Gray knows from the media work he's done there. People have asked how much money they've got and he said he has heard they're "minted", but that could cover a lot of wealth levels. He certainly seems to think they've got good financial backing but I don't think he knows who they are and he hasn't mentioned billionaires to me. Maybe I've missed it but I think that bit has been added by others.

It was the Evans guy who mentioned 3 Billionaires. Over the road they’re now saying it’s the Irish?

 

[Pure River Slut]

Bit strange over there. Seem to have caused a wee storm by merely questioning the authenticity of the itk rumours.

Get called a mag and abused...... Bizarre

You went on there to wind people up. Now you’re on here to stir a bit more up. You need to get a life to be honest.

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

Bit strange over there. Seem to have caused a wee storm by merely questioning the authenticity of the itk rumours.

Get called a mag and abused...... Bizarre

There’s a difference between questioning authenticity and pouring scorn. You’ve been biased toward the latter. You, and others over there, expect authenticity to be provided, impossible in almost every case, and when you don’t get it,so you resort to scorn far too readily.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Bit strange over there. Seem to have caused a wee storm by merely questioning the authenticity of the itk rumours.

Get called a mag and abused...... Bizarre

Surely you'd need contrary information to do that ...

... otherwise you're simply doubting people's integrity.

Cynics might believe that 'causing a wee storm' was your intention from the start.

 

[Magnus]

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[Daz]

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William Storey is pretty adamant like!

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

William Storey is pretty adamant like!

Oh god, a fake William Storey account has appeared! Suppose it was always just a matter of time, but doesn't seem necessary when his real account is so mad to begin with!

 

[Smug in Boots]

William Storey is pretty adamant like!

You can't say this close season has been boring

No idea where Adam Ant fits into all this tbh, I'm a bit lost with it all ...

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[Iansun]

Just a slight note of caution, unless I missed it (and I've read the lads posts and I've PMd him because I know him in real life) I don't think he mentioned billionaires. He's said he's heard its Gray and 3 people from Dubai who Gray knows from the media work he's done there. People have asked how much money they've got and he said he has heard they're "minted", but that could cover a lot of wealth levels. He certainly seems to think they've got good financial backing but I don't think he knows who they are and he hasn't mentioned billionaires to me. Maybe I've missed it but I think that bit has been added by others.

It's amazing how details get stretched from what was actually said.

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

It was the Evans guy who mentioned 3 Billionaires. Over the road they’re now saying it’s the Irish?

Aye, might be wrong but that read to me as if people had read the rumour on SMB, added the "billionaire" bit and then tweeted the lad asking if he knew anything about it (because he is based in dubai and seemed to know about the FPP bid last time), then he's used the same wording back. Hopefully wrong like but I didn't get the impression he knew there were billionaires involved, if he does that's the first time I've seen it mentioned

 

[Smiler]

Aye, might be wrong but that read to me as if people had read the rumour on SMB, added the "billionaire" bit and then tweeted the lad asking if he knew anything about it (because he is based in dubai and seemed to know about the FPP bid last time), then he's used the same wording back. Hopefully wrong like but I didn't get the impression he knew there were billionaires involved, if he does that's the first time I've seen it mentioned

You're right he said nothing about actual worth and only that they are minted. Mind, in footballing terms and more to the point ownership, you aren't really minted unless billions are involved which will be why people have jumped to that conclusion

 

[Essayyeffcee]

I'm quite encouraged but Donald is the fly in the ointment.

FPP wanted the club and had serious plans but Donald scuppered that deal.

He's dragging his heels again which is a worry but he definitely wants out.

It's a strange scenario - there's the price he wants for the club but if he's that desperate to get out surely you would take the price that comes as close as you can get to the asking price and have done with it. Yep we're not talking about a few quid here but would it be worth all the hassle to not getting a decent enough deal done and just hanging on to the club with no interest in it

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

You're right he said nothing about actual worth and only that they are minted. Mind, in footballing terms and more to the point ownership, you aren't really minted unless billions are involved which will be why people have jumped to that conclusion

Yeah, agree with that and it's certainly the assumption I'd jump to for much the same reasons as yourself. I'm just anxious because I don't know who told him it, if it's someone who doesn't normally associate with millionaires he might think having 100m makes you minted! Just anxious that people don't get too excited in case the reality is a little bit more mundane. I'll be happy with wealthy people from that region as long as they have vision and a plan for the club, I'm sure others could get involved later with more funding if it was going well. I'm optimistic because it all sounds good, but in terms of wealth I'm not thinking FPP levels (who knows, it might be that FPP keep the loan and are the next level that these lads can sell to, I've said for a while that it wouldn't surprise me to see Madrox sold and fpp still around, fingers crossed)

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

It's a strange scenario - there's the price he wants for the club but if he's that desperate to get out surely you would take the price that comes as close as you can get to the asking price and have done with it. Yep we're not talking about a few quid here but would it be worth all the hassle to not getting a decent enough deal done and just hanging on to the club with no interest in it

I think the issue is twofold. Firstly, financially I think he likely can afford it for this season and he knows that if we get promoted he'll have more chance of getting his profit next season. He wants out but having installed Rodwell its not like he even needs to come to Sunderland again, he can sit in Oxford and wait it out.

The other issue is that in football you get a lot of fantasists, he probably thinks he can get his desired price because he'll keep having people like Storey suggesting they will pay it but never actually providing proof of funds. He probably keeps thinking the next person will produce the funds and he'll ride off into the sunset. He can't keep us long at this level, but I doubt he'll bail out for a loss now, which is likely why FPP are unlikely to buy this time, they aren't going to increase from what they thought it was worth last time

 

[sad-eyed prophet]

Yeah, agree with that and it's certainly the assumption I'd jump to for much the same reasons as yourself. I'm just anxious because I don't know who told him it, if it's someone who doesn't normally associate with millionaires he might think having 100m makes you minted! Just anxious that people don't get too excited in case the reality is a little bit more mundane. I'll be happy with wealthy people from that region as long as they have vision and a plan for the club, I'm sure others could get involved later with more funding if it was going well. I'm optimistic because it all sounds good, but in terms of wealth I'm not thinking FPP levels (who knows, it might be that FPP keep the loan and are the next level that these lads can sell to, I've said for a while that it wouldn't surprise me to see Madrox sold and fpp still around, fingers crossed)

Desperately hoping so marra. I’m optimistic about this too, but hopes have been cruelly dashed before.