Reasons for changing the name

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Pointless thread.

For arguments sake, let's concede there is no valid or sound reason for a name change?

So what?

1 - It will happen anyway
2 - Those who don't object to the name change won't support the anti-campaign for reasons I've described earlier.
 
Boothferry2Wembley said:
Think back to the Udders debacle.

When the question was asked (by DMD, iirc) what can we do to oppose this?

Call a public meeting was suggested and ignored. A lot of useful input was lost as was momentum for the "campaign". They ended up making such monumental fools of themselves that it is now difficult to take them seriously. This was clearly demonstrated by yesterdays non event. If you're agenda doesn't match theirs than they are not interested. They appointed themselves spokespeople for the entire mighty tigers fan base.

Not all City fans want to be "'ulltras". Not all City fans want a return to standing. Not all City fans want to deny the owner the right to run his business as he sees fit etc etc.

Many posters on not606, did not support the anti-police rhetoric which was spouted by some of our self elected leaders, others did not take kindly as being referred to as " Akin to being scabs" for wishing to support the team they love. Some didn't wish to be involved with the Football supporters federation. etc etc.

I am still in favour of a public meeting as it would give certain people the chance to talk down to us all in person as opposed to boring us all to death on here.

I don't think people are trying to undermine the principle of the protest but some will be concerned about the direction it would take, given what happened with the Udders event and the poor start this has got off to, (two events which did you more harm then good) Who could blame them?

Just my thoughts, as always, take em or leave em!
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Well said B2W. Especially the bolded bit. Sadly, it's gonna fall on deaf ears.
 
captain caveman said:
I've made my opinion clear on this matter before, but have nothing better to do than reply to this thread.

The name change has ZERO effect on me. I don't buy merchandise now, and that won't change. I will still walk 2 miles to watch my local team play in black and amber every other saturday or so. In fact, for me, the name change is irrelevant.

IF this name change increases our profile outside of East Yorkshire, surely thats a good thing. A top flight club cannot succeed with nothing more than local support. Look at how our profile increased in Egypt after we signed an Egyptian player. We are lucky that "Tigers" is already an established part of our historical identity. By emphasising that in cultures where tigers are respected could give us access to huge new sources of revenues.

I understand the point that we are losing the traditional identity associated with a European football club, but that is the only downside I can see. The people who say it won't work can't possibly know that. The only people who do know are in the boardroom. If anyone has access to that, could you tell us how its going please!

In my opinion, it's worth a try.
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The only thing we know will increase our exposure abroad & as such increase our chances of additional income is being successful on the pitch.

If it was as easy as people are suggesting we'd of played the giants of world football "The Newcastle Magpies" this weekend. Next week we'd be playing the giants of the Western World "The Western Hammers" followed by "The Aston Martin Villains"

The people in the boardroom don't know if will work either, furthermore they also don't know if our current name wouldn't attract any additional income as they haven't tried. If investment is secured we'll not know if it was due solely to a name change unless this is revealed.

If changing our name is a condition of investment I'd rather do without. Foreign investment's don't guarantee success, ask "The Queen's Park Rangers", "The Sly Leicester Foxes", "The Royal Artillery Pompey's of the Port's Mouth" or "The Leeds Scum ****s"

It's all a crock of ****.
 
Boothferry2Wembley said:
Think back to the Udders debacle.



When the question was asked (by DMD, iirc) what can we do to oppose this?

Call a public meeting was suggested and ignored. A lot of useful input was lost as was momentum for the "campaign". They ended up making such monumental fools of themselves that it is now difficult to take them seriously. This was clearly demonstrated by yesterdays non event. If you're agenda doesn't match theirs than they are not interested. They appointed themselves spokespeople for the entire mighty tigers fan base.

Not all City fans want to be "'ulltras". Not all City fans want a return to standing. Not all City fans want to deny the owner the right to run his business as he sees fit etc etc.

Many posters on not606, did not support the anti-police rhetoric which was spouted by some of our self elected leaders, others did not take kindly as being referred to as " Akin to being scabs" for wishing to support the team they love. Some didn't wish to be involved with the Football supporters federation. etc etc.


I am still in favour of a public meeting as it would give certain people the chance to talk down to us all in person as opposed to boring us all to death on here.



I don't think people are trying to undermine the principle of the protest but some will be concerned about the direction it would take, given what happened with the Udders event and the poor start this has got off to, (two events which did you more harm then good) Who could blame them?

Just my thoughts, as always, take em or leave em!
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Was something planned for yesterday?? A very interesting post this.
 
Boothferry2Wembley said:
Think back to the Udders debacle.



When the question was asked (by DMD, iirc) what can we do to oppose this?

Call a public meeting was suggested and ignored. A lot of useful input was lost as was momentum for the "campaign". They ended up making such monumental fools of themselves that it is now difficult to take them seriously. This was clearly demonstrated by yesterdays non event. If you're agenda doesn't match theirs than they are not interested. They appointed themselves spokespeople for the entire mighty tigers fan base.

Not all City fans want to be "'ulltras". Not all City fans want a return to standing. Not all City fans want to deny the owner the right to run his business as he sees fit etc etc.

Many posters on not606, did not support the anti-police rhetoric which was spouted by some of our self elected leaders, others did not take kindly as being referred to as " Akin to being scabs" for wishing to support the team they love. Some didn't wish to be involved with the Football supporters federation. etc etc.


I am still in favour of a public meeting as it would give certain people the chance to talk down to us all in person as opposed to boring us all to death on here.



I don't think people are trying to undermine the principle of the protest but some will be concerned about the direction it would take, given what happened with the Udders event and the poor start this has got off to, (two events which did you more harm then good) Who could blame them?

Just my thoughts, as always, take em or leave em!
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That'll be the Huddersfield debacle that has continued and resulted in investigations into the attitude and behaviour of Police Officers at football? I'd say it was more of a success than a failure.

As for 'self elected leaders' I have absolutely no idea at all who you're referring to. There are several people who are doing their own thing, their are some that have united for za joint effort, but I wouldn't describe them as leaders. You're perfectly at liberty to do your own thing and all credit you if you do. You'll get no criticism from me for following your principles in the same way the others don't.

Of course we all want different things. I don't see anyone suggesting otherwise. The ground is slowly forming into distinct areas to accommodate that. With a little bit of give an take, away games can be tweaked to suit most needs to.

What we shouldn't have is ANY one group dictating in such a way that it affects the others unduly. That includes those against or apathetic to the name change having respect for the principles of those that object.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
That'll be the Huddersfield debacle that has continued and resulted in investigations into the attitude and behaviour of Police Officers at football? I'd say it was more of a success than a failure.

As for 'self elected leaders' I have absolutely no idea at all who you're referring to. There are several people who are doing their own thing, their are some that have united for za joint effort, but I wouldn't describe them as leaders. You're perfectly at liberty to do your own thing and all credit you if you do. You'll get no criticism from me for following your principles in the same way the others don't.

Of course we all want different things. I don't see anyone suggesting otherwise. The ground is slowly forming into distinct areas to accommodate that. With a little bit of give an take, away games can be tweaked to suit most needs to.

What we shouldn't have is ANY one group dictating in such a way that it affects the others unduly. That includes those against or apathetic to the name change having respect for the principles of those that object.
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That's fine by me, I shall continue to go to the match to watch my team, and continue to ignore this fruitless protest.
 
John. Walkington. said:
That's fine by me, I shall continue to go to the match to watch my team, and continue to ignore this fruitless protest
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1. It's only fruitless because so many ****s like you are sat there saying, "well, he's a stubborn old twat so I won't bother";

2. What kind of football fans mock their fellow supporters for being passionate about the club? It's the same with you lot and the 'Ulltras'. OK, so their name's a bit crap, but at least they want to inject some noise and passion into our games. Why take the piss?
 
John. Walkington. said:
That's fine by me, I shall continue to go to the match to watch my team, and continue to ignore this fruitless protest.
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I've no problem at all with people choosing to ignore it. It's those that make so much noise about how they're not at all bothered that I find sad and ignorant.
 
Heading towards 200 replies and 2,000 views and STILL no single solid benefit for the name change has been found.

Speaks volumes.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
I've no problem at all with people choosing to ignore it. It's those that make so much noise about how they're not at all bothered that I find sad and ignorant.
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Why is it so difficult to understand?

The only way that the protest can succeed is for Allam to ultimately leave the club.

The majority of fans still support Allam and are not prepared to let a minority of fans force this outcome.

Of course, most of the protesters will say that they do not want Allam to leave the club, they just want him to reconsider his position.

However this is not going to happen whilst the protest is a minority.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Added some. The geordies that bothered to post to us were fine, it looks lie the younger, shy element play with the rep thing.
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I think the Necastle board suffers from rather too many Facebook types...

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Mr A has brought unprecedented success to City via his decisions.I trust his judgement in business.
I like us being on MOTD
200 at Barnsley when we were rubbish indicates most others prefer us where we are now.
If the name change is a failure I think it will probably be scrapped
 
Plastik Tubby said:
Why is it so difficult to understand?

The only way that the protest can succeed is for Allam to ultimately leave the club.

The majority of fans still support Allam and are not prepared to let a minority of fans force this outcome.

Of course, most of the protesters will say that they do not want Allam to leave the club, they just want him to reconsider his position.

However this is not going to happen whilst the protest is a minority.
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Yes it is, watch and learn...
 
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