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yep, and they'll take oil, the only thing we have left that's worth anything, with them
Thank you very much. I shall tell my black wife that I want a divorce because I am racist and replace her with a Polish white woman instead. This is what drove some people. Those who want to remain insisting that if people want to vote to leave they are racist bigoted xenophobes. People are tired of being called names because they disagree with someone else's point of view.
Silly old you. Scotland are only part of the UK when it agrees with what Scotland wants, is increasing subsidies for the oil industry or is upping the Barnett formula in their favour. Anything else and they are a proud, independent nation who want rid of the oppressive southern scumbags.
Seriously though within hours of one cock up politicians and media are taking the Scottish electorate for a mere bunch of lemmings, again.
It sounds like a lot of people have a problem with capitalism with their complaints of cheap labour taking jobs from the UK. People fail to realise that the UK is ultimately powerless if big companies wish to up sticks and set up elsewhere - IE Ford shutting down their Southampton plant to expand their operation in Turkey. Interesting to note that people genuinely think we can negotiate preferable trade deals when we're likely to lose Scotland, and possibly Northern Ireland. This could lead feasibly us to dropping out of the top 10 economies in the world - after so much of the trade argument was based around us being the 5th biggest economy and countries would be queuing up to agree free trade deals. It's not going to happen and there will have to be compromises on the freedom of movement - which for a lot of people was the main issue of the EU.
I also don't think the polls in the few days leading up to the referendum helped the remain camp at all, as they were all suggesting that the voters would come out and back remain, which I believe led to a lot of would-be remain voters to stay at home as they felt the result would be remain either way. Whereas the leave voters were obviously very passionate about their vote and were much more enthusiastic in persuading people to vote.
Basically, we're going to have to bend over, lube up and let USA, China, Japan, India & the EU have their wicked way with us.
I also don't think the polls in the few days leading up to the referendum helped the remain camp at all, as they were all suggesting that the voters would come out and back remain, which I believe led to a lot of would-be remain voters to stay at home as they felt the result would be remain either way. Whereas the leave voters were obviously very passionate about their vote and were much more enthusiastic in persuading people to vote.
Basically, we're going to have to bend over, lube up and let USA, China, Japan, India & the EU have their wicked way with us.
More fool them. Their economy wouldn't stand it with the oil price so low. After the last referendum the price fell by 98% causing a massive black hole in their finances.
Racism isn't defined by colour alone,I think Archers is correct but ONLY because that minority who are racist have swung the vote,not that everyone who voted out is racist.
I totally agree that every racist/nationalist voted to leave but that does not give anybody the right to label all people who voted to leave as racist or nationalist.
I would also agree that every corporate finger in the pot couldn't care about the working class voted to remain but I will not be labelling everyone who voted remain as that.
Two Labour MPs have submitted a motion of no confidence in Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.
Margaret Hodge and Ann Coffey confirmed the move in a letter to the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party.
The motion has no formal constitutional force but calls for a discussion at their next PLP meeting on Monday.
If accepted it would be followed by a secret ballot of Labour MPs on Tuesday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...e=news_central
Bye Corbyn
Margaret Hodge and Ann Coffey confirmed the move in a letter to the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party.
The motion has no formal constitutional force but calls for a discussion at their next PLP meeting on Monday.
If accepted it would be followed by a secret ballot of Labour MPs on Tuesday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...e=news_central
Bye Corbyn
Fair enough. Yes we are probably talking about the same post. This one. I guess I misread it:
We both voted the way that we thought was right. There may be differing reasons in different geographical areas of the UK for our decisions but people haven't tried to p**s anyone off by voting one way. The majority of people have made an honest decision for whatever reason(s) meant the most to them.
I have to say and THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAMPAIGN that I have been very VERY disappointed in Corbyn as Labour leader .
I have often wondered if he ever REALLY wanted the job .
Man of principles , oh yes, a leader of people NO !!!!!
Just going to leave this here....
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Just seen John Redwood on TV. Why does he seem to be putting off actually leaving the EU I thought that was what he wanted? I hope whoever takes things forward is more dynamic than him or we'll be living in uncertainty for years. He didn't seem to know what the way forward was. Surely there is a plan.