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As soon as there is a decent and interesting political debate in here, the gender identity issue gets dragged in again. There are so quite interesting developments in the world of politics and I am surprised that the treatment of Diane Abbott during PMQs has not got more legs.

I am really disappointed by Starmer's behaviour as he is shpwing himself to be a hypocrite. If the poll is correct and the Labour lead is realistic, I wonder how comprehensive it would be if people genuinely supported him as oppose to perceiving him as a more palatable alternative to the Conservatives. It is a shame that Corbyn was replace as the leader as I think he would be more favoured . I would be interested to see if Starmer got elected, how quickly the Left would push to replace him with a more Left-leaning alternative if things went wrong quickly. With a decent majority, I think an alternative candidate from the Left would be able to make some of the chnages that this country desperately needs but is afraid to address.

Corbyn being leader would be the only chance the Conservatives would have of getting voted back in...
 
This is the one from a flurry on that Twitter account. There are others with Labour at 41-42 and Conservatives at 27 ish. Smallest gap is 15 points. Largest is this one at 28. Quite a big range. Interestingly the other parties all stay roughly the same with the variance being between the two main ones
The main point is that this was data collected before the Frank Hester ****storm even registered on the radar. It will get a lot worse for the Tories next week.
 
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The main point is that this was data collected before the Frank Hester ****storm even registered on the radar. It will get a lot worse for the Tories next week.
It makes you wonder when they actually are going to call an election. I guess they are hoping that Labour make some kind of major mistake and then they call one after that. Or maybe force something through on rwanda. But surely their internal polls must show that this isn’t going to help them. Right wing channels have also spotted how the current plan is nonsense and has no net impact as we take people from rwanda as well.
 
“I’m not able to have casual sex”. And? So what? That puts said person in line with the majority of the population and likely their own position pre surgery as well. Might be a weird thing to pick up on but of all the things in that particular post it was odd of the op to specifically call that part out

This is a bit of an odd post and makes you come across as one of those weird incel dudes who hates women.

Why shouldn't someone be upset if they can't have casual sex? And it's a bit of a strange assumption to make that they didn't do that anyway.
 
Corbyn being leader would be the only chance the Conservatives would have of getting voted back in...

Astonishing that there are still people out there who believe Corbyn was some extremely popular politician who was just a bit misunderstood.

Easily one of the least popular UK politicians of my lifetime. Vast majority of my friends and family are labour voters but none of them could stand them and refused to vote for him.
 
You ignore or refuse to address the papers from the Mayo clinic and the Cedars Sinai center.
It's not been discontinued that is not true, not in the slightest. Here are the actual words in a NHS publication which total refute your intellectually challenged post. "We have concluded that there is not enough evidence to support the safety or clinical effectiveness of PSH to make the treatment routinely available at this time."
Not difficult. Nor is this."
"On an exceptional, case by case basis any clinical recommendation to prescribe PSH for the purpose of puberty suppression outside of research and in contradiction to the routine commissioning position set out in this policy must be considered and approved by a national multidisciplinary team."
I don’t care what pathetic studies you show me.

Giving **** like that to children for anything other than medical emergencies is pure evil. Extreme gender ideology is child abuse.

I don’t need peer reviewed studies or anything else to tell me what is right and wrong. The fact that you do tells me you are unable to think for yourself.

Need I remind you that, as an example, Hitler’s government produced “peer reviewed studies” which amplified is anti-Semitic messages.

You are being brainwashed by woke gender ideology. Kids should only be given drugs as an extreme last resort, not because their parents are bat ****.
Schad, you should spend some time browsing this subreddit so you can see what your insane ideology causes:

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You expect people to accept reddit posts and similar platforms for crackpot conspiraloons as credible sources but refute peer reviewed scientific papers or studies from world renowned medical bodies. No credibility whatsoever in any of your arguments on this and other subjects.
 
This is a bit of an odd post and makes you come across as one of those weird incel dudes who hates women.

Why shouldn't someone be upset if they can't have casual sex? And it's a bit of a strange assumption to make that they didn't do that anyway.


In my experience, sex is never entirely casual. I’m reminded of the line in pulp fiction where Vincent says to Jules, “I must have given a thousand foot massages, and they all meant something.” And that’s only a foot massage.
 
In my experience, sex is never entirely casual. I’m reminded of the line in pulp fiction where Vincent says to Jules, “I must have given a thousand foot massages, and they all meant something.” And that’s only a foot massage.

Though that dialogue would have been written by Tarantino...there is no 'only' when it comes to feet for him. The final film of his career is going to be eight spoken lines and two hours of close-up shots of feet.
 
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Though that dialogue would have been written by Tarantino...there is no 'only' when it comes to feet for him. The final film of his career is going to be eight spoken lines and two hours of close-up shots of feet.


Was hoping he’d do Shakespeare for his final movie. The body count in Hamlet or Othello would be right up Tarantino’s street imo.
 
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Astonishing that there are still people out there who believe Corbyn was some extremely popular politician who was just a bit misunderstood.

Easily one of the least popular UK politicians of my lifetime. Vast majority of my friends and family are labour voters but none of them could stand them and refused to vote for him.

Libby

Unfortinately, I feel Corbyn's time has now been and gone. He was unfortunate to narrowly miss out in 2016 and I feel would have got in if he had had an opinion on Brexit. I do not feel that the EU really interested him and that both that election and the following on where he was smashed would have beem more successful in both instances has this not been so dominated by that issue. Membership of the Labour Party went up under his tenure and I feel the whole "Youthquake" scenario felt real and not simply fabricated by the press. I appreciate that there were many who disliked him and this was because they knew that they were the kind of people that hos government would have targeted. However, I would argue that there were many within the Labour Party who were inspired by him and felt that he was the first leader we had had for generations who truly reflected the opinions of most members. Even at a local scale, there are people within my local Labour branch who have commincated with me through email that they are disheartened by Starmer's re-heated New Labour act and pine for his return.

I would also add that I do think that it would have been John McDonnell who would have been very much the force stearing a Corbyn government. There were allegedly plans in place to address this country's media which would have ensured that Britain in 2024 would be in a totally different mindset than it is today. The press crucified Corbyn and he was further undermined by the parliamentary Labour Party who were continually breifing against him. It is a shame that his stewardship existed at the same time as Brexit was such an issue. I think he would probably face a backlash against immigration if he had been in power as those who were opposed him would have attacked him for his Internationalist mindset which clashes with a lot of the immature, knee-jerk popularist opinions. A Corbyn government would have addressed the imbalance between business and the Trade Unions whose role has been dminished by successive governments since 1979. I am not sure Corbyn would have kept us in the EU but I would have liked to have thought he could have been convinced to remain and re-address the focus of the EU from pro-business to pro-people. He would have addressed inequalities due to wealth and I think would have made moves to take us out of NATO - something I hope will still happen. We would also have a more balanced and more moral media. In my opinion, we missed an opportunity to make some important decisions that would have shaped the UK for the better had he been elected. It was a genuinely exciting period to be a socialist - not only because of how close he came to realising his vision for this country but also because this he was the first political leader from the UK who I witnessed inspiring other politically - minded people in the rest of Europe. This is something I have personl experience of. I got pulled aside at a jazz festival in France by two more senior blokes who felt that a Corbyn election victory would have been a victory for Europe and emboldened the Left on the continent . In my opinion, it was an incredible time in British politics. Now the Labour Party has a leader none of it;s members want and whose "success" is due to the unpopularity of the party in government as opposed to anything he has done. If he gets elected, I think the honeymoon period for him will be remarkably swift. Had Corbyn been elected in 2016, it would have been the UK's Obama moment.
 
Never talk to terrorists, nothing good can ever come out of it …

Mo Mowlam "oversaw the negotiations which led to the 1998 Good Friday Agreement".
On 6 August 1997 she met with the Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams to have "their first face to face discussions since the breakdown of the IRA ceasefire in February 1996".
She was successful in helping to restore the second IRA ceasefire which eventually led to Sinn Féin being included in the multi-party peace talks. The talks led to the Good Friday/Belfast Agreement achieved on 10 April 1998, bringing an end to conflict in Northern Ireland known as the Troubles.
 
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All this will do is add another ex PM with entitlement to security cover for life and, presumably, a better pension for her, if she is selected to take over from Rishi No Sac.
Still it’s only taxpayers money, which is why the Tories don’t care that by not having a general election on the same day as the local elections it will cost in the region of an extra £33 million to organise a second election and staff it etc when they do find the balls to call it.