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I saw an interesting suggestion, from a political commentator, this morning.
Not sure that it wouldn’t backfire, though, if the gamble failed.
The suggestion was that Labour support the deal, put forward by Buffoon, BUT only if it was then put to a public referendum with Remain and the rescinding of Article 50 as the only other option to leaving with the deal.
If Remain then won the vote, Labour could look their voters, that voted Leave, in the eye and say that they accepted the deal, but democracy defeated it.
If Leave won again, then we’re all fecked.
Either way the decision would come from the public.
 
Archers Road said:
See the wonderful world of psychiatry for plentiful examples of the limitless expansion of drug companies profits.

Despite the fascinating development of psychology, psycho-analysis and various related therapies, the most significant advances in psychiatric medicine over the last century have been pharmaceutical. By far the most common treatment for a range of psychiatric disorders, is the chemical straight jacket.

I’m not knocking the use of medication to treat mental illness by the way - some of these treatments can be enormously effective in relieving distressing symptoms. But I don’t think writing out a prescription should be the only, or even the principal, help available to sufferers of mental ill health.

The trouble is, talking therapies, and behavioural therapies are expensive, time consuming, and require considerable commitment from both health care professionals and patients (and their families). Much easier to just write out a script.
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My Masters dissertation written many years ago was titled, 'Prescription or Choice.' and purposely covered both clinical and political issues. The central issue examined was what referred patients to Psychiatric/Psychological services wanted. Unsurprisingly, broadly, first time referrals wanted prescription, whilst those who were re-referrals wanted more choice.
 
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St Badger said:
I saw an interesting suggestion, from a political commentator, this morning.
Not sure that it wouldn’t backfire, though, if the gamble failed.
The suggestion was that Labour support the deal, put forward by Buffoon, BUT only if it was then put to a public referendum with Remain and the rescinding of Article 50 as the only other option to leaving with the deal.
If Remain then won the vote, Labour could look their voters, that voted Leave, in the eye and say that they accepted the deal, but democracy defeated it.
If Leave won again, then we’re all fecked.
Either way the decision would come from the public.
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The best part about any second referendum would be that the Remain campaign wouldn’t be led by David Cameron. That, plus the fact that there are over 2 million new young voters registered since 2016, plus the fact that probably more Leave voters than Remainers have died, plus the fact that many Leavers have changed their minds, OUGHT to swing it.

BUT don’t underestimate the dirty tricks of Cummings and co., who will almost certainly pull off another Cambridge Analytica style stunt to influence people.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
The best part about any second referendum would be that the Remain campaign wouldn’t be led by David Cameron. That, plus the fact that there are over 2 million new young voters registered since 2016, plus the fact that probably more Leave voters than Remainers have died, plus the fact that many Leavers have changed their minds, OUGHT to swing it.

BUT don’t underestimate the dirty tricks of Cummings and co., who will almost certainly pull off another Cambridge Analytica style stunt to influence people.
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If a 2nd referendum revealed another result to leave the EU then we would truly be damned.
 
Now Boris has announced his extra police, longer jail terms, tougher laws. Removal of international laws, rules making it easier to deport immigrants and foreigners and requirement for them to register with the government, Requirement to have ID.

I think next on the Fascism checklist would be tougher rules on protesting against the government. Expect to see that announced after the People's Vote march.....
 
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VocalMinority said:
Now Boris has announced his extra police, longer jail terms, tougher laws. Removal of international laws, rules making it easier to deport immigrants and foreigners and requirement for them to register with the government, Requirement to have ID.

I think next on the Fascism checklist would be tougher rules on protesting against the government. Expect to see that announced after the People's Vote march.....
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Just watched the 3 part “Rise of the Nazis” on BBC iPlayer. The parallels are uncanny.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
I said exactly the same after I watched it. The similarities to the likes of Rees-Himmler, and, behind the scenes, Cummings-Goebbels, are chilling.
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Funnily, half my A level (in 1988...you know when they were difficult ;) ) was on the rise and fall of the 3rd Reich and I have always had a keen interest in it because of this.

Archers Road said:
That may be what saves us. Boris is a **** Hitler
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Luckily for us I think you are correct. Hitler was an incredibly flawed but charismatic character. He seized the opportunity and let others around him help him achieve his goal. Hopefully, those surrounding Boris aren't as ambitious or clever enough to pull it off.
 
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