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Sorry about that Chilcs. If it's any consolation, it did the same to me.
Just listened to Nicola's SNP Conference speech. Makes you realise what a bunch of ****s Johnson and his ERG pals are.
We are not just leaving the EU we are witnessing the break up of the Union.
I would not be the least bit surprised to see the unification of Ireland.
When Johnson and his nasty chums were kids I bet they walked around the seaside kicking down the castles the other kids had built.
We are not just leaving the EU we are witnessing the break up of the Union.
I would not be the least bit surprised to see the unification of Ireland.
When Johnson and his nasty chums were kids I bet they walked around the seaside kicking down the castles the other kids had built.
Well no one in Asia likes anyone else in Asia, so I wouldn't really go by that metric.
Yes, because they're the ones being wronged. Not our countries. And we because it's not us, we don't care. T
There's how the Chinese government treats their people. Which is ****ty and way worse than industrialized Western countries, and which unfortunately no one actually cares about even though it's the thing they SHOULD care about.
Then there's the diplomatic and economic relationship between China and US, EU, UK, etc. That's what we care about. In that game, it's kind of the Wild West. No one has the moral high ground. Everyone competes and tries to get over on each other. It's just US and now UK whinging about losing (and they probably weren't even losing).
If China sucks so bad, stop buying their ****. It's that simple. People can stop buying those allegedly cheap ****ty Huawei phones whenever they want. Companies are free not to go to China and deal with their shady business practices. But they don't.
Because the cost of IP theft is less than the savings they get from having products manufactured for cheap because China has no labor protection. In large part because we have stupid IP laws that allow companies to much leeway in obtaining and vastly overvaluing IP, with help from the government. If you're charging $500 for medicine that should cost $50, then expect to be undercut. Whether it's by Canada or China or whoever. If you charge $60 for a $2 t-shirt because it says North Face on it, expect that someone will print some fake t-shirts that say North Face. You know what that's telling you? You're brand isn't actually providing that much value, so make hay while the getting is good.
We complain that China potentially puts spyware in their products, as if all of our big tech companies don't do the same thing. We complain that they steal our jobs when in fact the truth is none of us would work in those conditions. We complain that their products are ****, but we keep buying them anyway because our products are equally or even more **** or are actually their **** with a brand markup of 300%.
There's no requirement than any customer buy NBA merchandise. If China boycotts NBA, that's up to them. The fact that the government doesn't give their citizens a choice sucks, but that's ultimately between China and its citizens. On the international free market, there is no requirement that people buy your ****. And the NBA is not the USA anyway. It's a private company, doing what private companies do. If they don't want to piss off the Chinese because they make ridiculous amounts of money there by having Chinese people make a jersey for $5 and then selling that back to them for $100, then that's up the NBA.
This reminds me of a relatively minor incident at the start of the Not In My Name March against the Iraq War in 2003. Our coach had dropped us near Waterloo Station, so, among thousands of others, we walked across Waterloo Bridge, where we tried to walk down the steps to Victoria Embankment, where the march was assembling. A solitary policeman was trying to stop people going down the steps, and telling them they had to go right along to the Strand and back down Savoy Street. “Sod that” we collectively replied, and the hapless PC immediately summoned a nearby Inspector. “They’re going down the steps sir! We were told not to let them!” “How do you plan on stopping them?” replied the Inspector, and that was that.
I would imagine the sheer weight of numbers on Saturday will mean the police, as they did in 2003, and at the massive People’s Vote march last March, will keep a very low profile.
She was brilliant. I would seriously consider moving to Scotland if Brexit ever happens, it sounds great! I have relatives up there who are all staunch Nationalists, but theirs is far removed from the English Nationalism of today’s far-right Tory Party. Theirs is about inclusion and welcome to anyone who wants to go there.
Apparently, Buffoon's ambition when he was a kid was to be "King of the World". Of course, when you are brought up in a no limits world that he did you can have such thoughts. Trouble is, as an adult he's trying to inflict them on us.
Any second campaign on Scottish independence would need to start after this brexit malarkey is more resolved.
They don t have the same urgency as a second brexit referendum. No way they can leave and negotiate a treaty to join the EU before weve left and taken them out of the EU at this point.
If the scottish people are going to have another debate on it, it shouldn't be confused by the current uncertainty over brexit. It needs to be a clear choice. We dont need 2 big confused issues at the same time.
They don t have the same urgency as a second brexit referendum. No way they can leave and negotiate a treaty to join the EU before weve left and taken them out of the EU at this point.
If the scottish people are going to have another debate on it, it shouldn't be confused by the current uncertainty over brexit. It needs to be a clear choice. We dont need 2 big confused issues at the same time.
not really, T.O. doesn't actually mean anything and shows a complete lack of imagination or the concept of what an acronym is. Add a few words and you're getting there. A first draft might be:
Tories out so socialists eradicate ridiculous sociopaths. This could be improved apon I'm sure.
OK, Cuadrilla aren't going to stop frackking. Of course, Preston Council could stop them: https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ot-planning-to-abandon-fracking-in-lancashire
Hoping to get the all clear to travel from the doc Thursday morning so it'll be last minute arrangements.
As Northern Ireland continues to dominate Brexit talks Baroness O'Loan sticks her oar in to try to ensure NI doesn't update it's abortion laws. She has assured everyone she has nothing to do with loanly.com that offers loans to the people of NI to travel to the UK
QUOTE OF THE DAY spaffer Johnson (from the Fiver)
10 January 2002: “What a relief it must be for [Tony] Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies … They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird” – Boris Johnson in the Telegraph.
15 October 2019: “Uefa needs to face up to facts. This stain on football is not being adequately dealt with. Racism and discrimination must be driven out of football once and for all” – Boris Johnson’s official spokesman, there.
10 January 2002: “What a relief it must be for [Tony] Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies … They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird” – Boris Johnson in the Telegraph.
15 October 2019: “Uefa needs to face up to facts. This stain on football is not being adequately dealt with. Racism and discrimination must be driven out of football once and for all” – Boris Johnson’s official spokesman, there.
Yes, when spaffer, May and their unctuous cronies keep bleating on about respecting the will of the people, and taking the UK out of Europe, they don`t mention that the UK may not be united much longer. Nicola is getting all the ammo she needs. I shudder to think of what might happen in Ireland.
I just got an e-mail from Jamie Carragher titled `You`ll never March Alone`, in support of a People`s Vote. He`s gone way up in my estimation!
That's painfully incorrect. That's like saying no one in Europe likes each other. Sounds funny in conversation, but is complete bollocks in actuality.
Japan and South Korea have an intense relationship (mostly Koreans hating the Japanese), but apart from those two, most people in Asia are very fond of one another (I'm talking East and South-East when I say 'Asia', so not the Indian subcontinent or the Middle East).
Chinese people are not the only ones being wronged (actually, most Chinese people at the moment are very satisfied, because their country is going through an incredible economic boom). China is bullying practically every country around them, and it is only going to get worse. And now China is doing the same internationally to countless companies. If UK/US and other countries can't recognise this, then they can have no complaints further down the line when China has even more power and influence.
If say in ten years China invades Taiwan, then no one can claim it is a 'surprise'.
Right now, there is a chance for other countries to say and do something, but they don't. They are too worried about upsetting China and losing their business.
The biggest hope is that their economic growth slows down significantly over the next decade.
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Please. No one will be surprised if China invades Taiwan, because in all likelihood it will be the US who has provoked them. And we will not lift a finger to help them. Taiwan to the US is nothing but a pawn to use against China.
In the global market, there is nothing such thing as bullying. China does not have to buy anything from the US if they don't want to, and vice versa. Both countries and the world are worse off for this, but if they want to be stupid they can be stupid.
Also, a lot of people do not like Japan because of WW2. And all of the Asian countries are economic rivals.
All you have to do if you don't like China's economic power is not buy their stuff. Buy stuff from some other country with cheap labor and horrible environmental and safety records instead. And then in ten years we can all bitch about how "unfair" it all is when that country undercuts our domestic companies.
Many of the same people complaining that China boycotting the NBA is bad are the same people who boycott the NFL because an NFL player wouldn't stand for the National anthem.
Yeah and not only are they not doing anything, our two countries are pulling out of trade agreements that would make all of the world stronger as a whole.
UK is trying to bully the EU. US is trying to bully the entire world. We are only pissed at China because they have the economic clout to stand up to us.
People in Hong Kong are burning LeBron jerseys now, because he spoke out against Morey. Should we tell the Hong Kong protesters to stuff it because they are "bullying" the NBA?
It's a load of crap. It's recycled "yellow menace" stuff being used for political gain.
There is no way I would ever defend the Chinese government for the way they run the country. But I also will oppose my own government and yours when they engage in the same trade protectionism, propaganda, attempted isolationism and all that other BS. From my perspective I really don't care who is taking away my rights and/or screwing me over. I'm not going to empower Trump to defeat China so that he can be my dictator instead.
In the global market, there is nothing such thing as bullying. China does not have to buy anything from the US if they don't want to, and vice versa. Both countries and the world are worse off for this, but if they want to be stupid they can be stupid.
Also, a lot of people do not like Japan because of WW2. And all of the Asian countries are economic rivals.
All you have to do if you don't like China's economic power is not buy their stuff. Buy stuff from some other country with cheap labor and horrible environmental and safety records instead. And then in ten years we can all bitch about how "unfair" it all is when that country undercuts our domestic companies.
Many of the same people complaining that China boycotting the NBA is bad are the same people who boycott the NFL because an NFL player wouldn't stand for the National anthem.
Yeah and not only are they not doing anything, our two countries are pulling out of trade agreements that would make all of the world stronger as a whole.
UK is trying to bully the EU. US is trying to bully the entire world. We are only pissed at China because they have the economic clout to stand up to us.
People in Hong Kong are burning LeBron jerseys now, because he spoke out against Morey. Should we tell the Hong Kong protesters to stuff it because they are "bullying" the NBA?
It's a load of crap. It's recycled "yellow menace" stuff being used for political gain.
There is no way I would ever defend the Chinese government for the way they run the country. But I also will oppose my own government and yours when they engage in the same trade protectionism, propaganda, attempted isolationism and all that other BS. From my perspective I really don't care who is taking away my rights and/or screwing me over. I'm not going to empower Trump to defeat China so that he can be my dictator instead.
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