Did we ever get one from Bartlett/duffen for pretty much bankrupting us...
Open message to Ehab.
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Did we ever get one from Bartlett/duffen for pretty much bankrupting us...
I've been in the away end every single time. Not always been behind the goal though. Been at the side the last few times. Still couldn't tell you the name of the stand (without checking the tickets if I still have them) not really interested.
There are lots of other food outlets! Waitrose, Fortnum & Mason, ASDA, Morrisons, Budgens, LIDL, ALDI, SPAR. The list goes on and on
Dream on. They want their money back and some
They've habitually treat supporters (and a long list of others from managers, players, fan representatives, FC representatives, council representatives, local community clubs, seniors, kids, HDM, RH, the list goes on and on) with utter contempt, with lies and disrespect, ever since they were unable to get their way early on during their ownership.
No, actually the truth is they lied and treat us and others with contempt from day one, but hid it well until the dummies came out and we then saw behind the mask. Them finally lowering prices was simply a desperate attempt to somehow get back the lost thousands. Whoopy ****ing do, yeah, lower prices finally. Those that don't see and understand that are blind and / or stupid. They've never truly admitted mistakes or tried to rebuild bridges. The eventual changes on pricing, after how many seasons of **** up, was a lame, futile attempt that hasn't and will not work - too late, the horse long bolted.
There's way too much to reverse; how can you reverse nigh on a decade built on lie after lie after lie, disrespect, contempt, arrogance, petty action after petty action, stupidity, stubborness, ..... You simply can't .
Too many have said that's enough, just stick it. It's really not hard to see why.
It seems a small handful on here are either being incredibly argumentative for the fun of it or else are effectively saying back to the Allams 'how low do you want me to bend whilst you continue to shaft me; it's my club so you can shove it up as far as you wish, I'll just keep coming back for more'.
When it comes to our football club, they are utter ****s. They are utterly despicable. I really don't like gratuitous swearing, but in their case it fits.
We need them gone. Simple as.
Final final word on it. Stick it.
No, actually the truth is they lied and treat us and others with contempt from day one, but hid it well until the dummies came out and we then saw behind the mask. Them finally lowering prices was simply a desperate attempt to somehow get back the lost thousands. Whoopy ****ing do, yeah, lower prices finally. Those that don't see and understand that are blind and / or stupid. They've never truly admitted mistakes or tried to rebuild bridges. The eventual changes on pricing, after how many seasons of **** up, was a lame, futile attempt that hasn't and will not work - too late, the horse long bolted.
There's way too much to reverse; how can you reverse nigh on a decade built on lie after lie after lie, disrespect, contempt, arrogance, petty action after petty action, stupidity, stubborness, ..... You simply can't .
Too many have said that's enough, just stick it. It's really not hard to see why.
It seems a small handful on here are either being incredibly argumentative for the fun of it or else are effectively saying back to the Allams 'how low do you want me to bend whilst you continue to shaft me; it's my club so you can shove it up as far as you wish, I'll just keep coming back for more'.
When it comes to our football club, they are utter ****s. They are utterly despicable. I really don't like gratuitous swearing, but in their case it fits.
We need them gone. Simple as.
Final final word on it. Stick it.
You've missed M&S.That's within walking distance for me so I'll try that tomorrow,failing that there's always the food banks
Well said.
In terms of a legacy from EPL money, the one thing they invested in (and have continued to) was the youth section. That suggested they were looking at the long term strategy from early on. They've no intention of going.
They can cover costs with interest from loans (no idea if that holds up?) and then enjoy the profits from Bowen, KLP, Greavesy, etc.
Then with good scouting, invest in young kids who could develop... Burke, Wilkes, etc. Communicate this properly to the fan base, no one woud have an issue with that policy.
Without the rest of the ****e, if they were open out about the business plan, I'm sure the majority would be behind that business model.
Again though, be honest because Its not consistent with the idea of wanting to sell the club.
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I’ve no interest in an apology, there was a time when that may have been enough to start resolving the situation, but that time is long gone.
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Coulda would shoulda are the last words of a fool.
Not many new insights being dredged up in the last couple of pages, just the same old bitterness - and the Allams are unlikely to ever express the regret some seem to crave.
It's like those people who bang on about a government of the 80s or a referendum defeat in 2016- let it go.
So perhaps reset, and look forward rather than backward?.
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Have you Great Expectations of an answer to your question?
Sums it up perfectly for me.
Some posters on here are deluded and delirious if they think Ehab Allam is going to go down on his knees and beg pardon.It's laughable at best.
It shows a certain lack of worldliness if people expect a multi millionaire to feel the need to justify his actions to people, many of whom have expressed their contempt for him . (Talking Assem here not Ehab).. It;s just not going to happen, so park it and move on
Father and son are not football people, and do not share the same football template as most of us.
They have come in with business ideas and dare I say it cultural ideas a world away from, say, Adam Pearson.
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The judgement the Allams make, if they think about this at all, is “would a fulsome apology increase the club’s income?”
To which the answer is “hardly at all”. Those who are entrenched will remain entrenched. Those who have been lost and whose interests lie elsewhere will not be drawn back by an apology. And those who remain customers of the club won’t spend more of their money at the club shop or buy more pies if there is an apology.
So as OLM suggests, talk of an apology from the Allams is a bit pointless.
To which the answer is “hardly at all”. Those who are entrenched will remain entrenched. Those who have been lost and whose interests lie elsewhere will not be drawn back by an apology. And those who remain customers of the club won’t spend more of their money at the club shop or buy more pies if there is an apology.
So as OLM suggests, talk of an apology from the Allams is a bit pointless.
Precisely.It's no different than asking those who have slapped 'Allam Out' stickers all over the City to apologise.It's not going to happen from either side,they are both entrenched.
I would genuinely like to see the Club sold for all our sakes because as it stands the Club we support is suffering through loss of revenue and reputation.
Sold but to solid, reliable, wise preferably solvent British owners who are not chancers. dreamers or crooks.
This rules out about 75% of current club owners.
What we need is a complete change of cultures and style at the KCOM. This changed on 24 May 2008 when Duffen and co, zeroed the ticket customer base and started a new one where sharp elbowed demanding PL mentality fans were suddenly allowed access to the tickets that the 20,000 fans who'd come up through the divisions together should have been prioritised for.
There can be few clubs in the country so aloof and detached from its surrounds as City, it's like an alien spaceship has landed in West Park.
The club needs to reach out in the schools,workplaces and media to become a local club - THE local club again.
That link and bond had been lost before the Allams, and they've worsened it.
I'm not so much bothered about what division we're in, as long as we build the foundations again. .