No, they didn't. Bates took over in January 2005 and left in 2012. The 36, 000 was the season before he took over. Going down to Div 3 for the first time in their history won't have helped. http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/leeu.htm
Last year's relegation was an unexpected disaster and couldn't have came at a worse time.If we'd stayed up last season I think they might've been gone by now. That's why it's imperative we go up this season and things look extremely positive on that front.That will hopefully entice a prospective buyer and we go again.Hopefully the stay away supporters will jump back on board and we can all get some sanity back.
I think some of you are kidding yourselves here. If promotion leads to the club being more attractive to potential buyers, it also makes keeping the club more financially viable for the Allams, aiding the tax efficiency of their overall business portfolio. The Allams notionally want to sell Hull City. But they are incapable of accepting anything other than a price that would be entirely unreasonable to any buyer. Therefore the club is effectively not for sale and the Allams are going nowhere unless we sink into such a financial mire that they gain no benefit from keeping it going. Depressing message, sorry.
Okay, 29.2k to 21.5k then. Oddly, their attendances actually went up a bit when they dropped into the third tier.
A lot of clubs crowds increase after going down when the start winning, fans preferring watching winning at a lower level than losing every week at a higher level. Years ago Man Citybdid likewise when they went into Div 3 for the first time.
Exactly, I'm sure a fair few who stopped going "because of the allams" would have come back this season ( if we could attend ) with us challenging and being up at the top most the season
Your assuming they want to keep hold of the club ? Maybe they don't want to spend the rest of theirs lives propping up a football club even if they can charge interest on any money loaned to it ? . We may think it's a big deal but to them it might just be another dull day at the office they can do without.
I don't think they need to worry about propping anything up, they've not put a penny into the club for about six years now and until the £20m from Bowen runs out, that will continue to be the case. It they seriously want out, they could easily make that happen, they just need to be realistic about what price they can get.
Probably not, and the Bowen/and other transfers money has kept the wolf from the door, there is no doubt about that. I don't know where we would have been without it. But it wont last forever, the day to day expenses don't get any cheaper and the club still has to be run, then the club will need to be propped up. I honestly believe that if someone came in with the right offer they would sell. I don't think a proper offer has been put on the table yet. And they have said the price of the club is decided on how much money is still to come in from transfer fees. That's fair enough. If someone was genuine and seriously interested and had the cash I'm sure a deal could be struck.
Very few lower tier clubs will make any money for 2020 including Hull City. Without transfer monies coming in, the club would have either a reduced playing squad or be insolvent. Promotion or not, the club is sustained by player sales. Next summer may not be a pleasant experience and some of our shining stars may need to fund the coming season. My fear is that promotion will kick in that cycle of events that we know too well, player sales without investment. I want to see us back at least into the Championship, but just cannot see how that will work unless we have at least some investment, because selling players just for it to go on the wage bill and loan commitments isn't going to do anything other than prolong the inevitable. Just in case posters want to know how any fans buy out group is going. This is where I am at. Looking at investing time and money into any football related purchase is simply foolhardy. Until it is known, how and when supporters will be let back into ground, the cost implications and if there will be restrictions on numbers etc there will be little point in putting the questions to supporters, there are too many considerations to take into account. We need stability in society and last year it looked as if we were close to the end of covid, now who knows if there actually be supporters in stadiums next season. It would be nice to be able to say yes there will be, but that is just a hope.
I think Ehab wants to stay as the owner of a football club. He always seems to have like being one, and I think it will take a lot to wrestle that title off him. Only what I think though
Wonder if they’re going to stand with some plans in Melton Them owners eh Backlash to owners’ ‘plan to move from Oakwell’ please log in to view this image The dispute between Barnsley FC’s owners took another twist this week when it was revealed that the club’s majority owners have had discussions with other EFL clubs about a move away from Oakwell. The Chronicle understands that, as first reported by the Daily Mail, the majority owners – a consortium led by Chien Lee and Paul Conway – have discussed an alternative playing venue. But it is not clear how far the negotiations have got and when the Reds could move, if at all, with suspicions that it is, at least partly, an attempt to put pressure on the Cryne family, the previous club owners. Both the Crynes and Barnsley Council, who each own half of Oakwell, have responded with statements denying suggestions that they have refused to sell and expressing dismay at the idea of Barnsley moving. The Crynes are suing Lee and Conway’s group for £2.75m in unpaid instalments from the 2017 sale of the club. The family still own 20 per cent of the club as well as half of the ground, with Barnsley Council owning the other half. The majority owners are understood to be unhappy with the maintenance costs they are paying and claim the Crynes hid a ‘third party claim’ to the ground from them. But the family insist that relates to an historic claim which has now expired and that they would be happy to sell their half of the stadium. They have previously said they have reduced and delayed payments to help the majority owners. please log in to view this image Jean and James Cryne, the widow and son of former owner Patrick, were at Barnsley’s game at Middlesbrough on Tuesday along with chief executive Dane Murphy and also Indian businessman Neerav Parekh, one of the co-investors in Conway and Lee’s group which also includes American baseball legend Billy Beane. James also works in the recruitment department at Oakwell. The Reds are preparing as normal for their next home game a week tomorrow against Coventry City, a club who have had to move to Northampton Town and now Birmingham City’s St Andrew’s stadium due to a dispute between the club owners and the owners of the Ricoh Arena. The club’s supporters’ trust has released a detailed summary of the situation. They also state: “We hope that the talk of moving away from Oakwell is nothing more than posturing by BFC Investment Company Limited (the majority owners). Barnsley Football Club Supporters’ Trust will continue to encourage and support a resolution to the current situation that ensures we continue to see football played at Oakwell alongside success for Gerhard Struber and the team.” A Barnsley Council statement read: “We’re shocked and dismayed at the comments regarding the potential relocation of Barnsley Football Club.Relationships between the council and Barnsley Football Club have always been excellent. There are no disputes between the club and the council. The council has not declined to transfer the land as there have been no negotiations between the two parties on this matter. For the last 133 years, Barnsley Football Club has been a significant part of our borough, and we’ll do all we can to make sure professional football is maintained in Barnsley.” Barnsley MPs Stephanie Peacock and Dan Jarvis also expressed their concerns at the news and said they would do everything they could to prevent the club from moving away from Oakwell. A statement from the Cryne family read: “The Cryne Family would like to clarify that, contrary to recent speculation, they are fully committed to the agreement to sell their 50 per cent stake in Oakwell Stadium to BFC Investment Company. The Cryne Family remain committed supporters of the club and its future at Oakwell Stadium, the club’s home where it has played its football for the past 133 years, and want no more than to resolve this issue in line with the agreement made when BFC Investment Company bought the club.”
Yes, but even Bates didn't do a lot of the stupid things that Allams did - such as introducing a membership scheme that charged Seniors and even the youngest of kids the full adult price. That drove so many fans away and many won't come back. We probably lost a generation of potential future fans too. But in any case - didn't L**ds support drop off quite significantly during that time? I'm sure I heard that the famous North stand was closed for several seasons.
