O/T Scottish Independence
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If Scotland says 'Yes' Salmond will never offer another referendum, even if it goes horribly wrong.
If Scotland says 'No' he'll demand one.
If Scotland says 'No' he'll demand one.
Question should be why haven't England been given a vote on independence. We'd be off like a shot.
It'll be the political wilderness if he loses. He'll end up on the lecture circuit earning thousands telling everyone how the sassenachs robbed him of his birthright as the next Alex the Bruce!
Was looking forward to seeing a tearful, shell shocked David Cameron resigning this morning. Oh well roll on May!
Pleased with the result in the end, being half English half Scottish.
Cameron's no campaign was a bit of a shambles til Brown stepped in though.
Change needed all over the UK. Hope the North of England gets money ploughed in it.
Cameron's no campaign was a bit of a shambles til Brown stepped in though.
Change needed all over the UK. Hope the North of England gets money ploughed in it.
Pleased with the result in the end.
We have to thank the Scots for one thing though. It'll stir up those buggers in Parliament. They can't take anything for granted now.
I can see taxation rates coming down next year! Cheers Jocks!
We have to thank the Scots for one thing though. It'll stir up those buggers in Parliament. They can't take anything for granted now.
I can see taxation rates coming down next year! Cheers Jocks!
Im disappointed of course.
Hopefully though. This isn't all in vain.
Major change is needed and this is the catalyst for it.
Also looking forward to the setting up of the independent republics of Glasgow and Dundee
Hopefully though. This isn't all in vain.
Major change is needed and this is the catalyst for it.
Also looking forward to the setting up of the independent republics of Glasgow and Dundee
Salmond as always talked a load os ****e. Well the electorate has spoken and now is the time for this man to resign, but of course he wont because he has a big fat pay packet as Scotlands first minister. As someone said in an earlier post he wanted to be the next robert Bruce. This result makes him look like Bruce Almighty.
I started this thread not realising that it would stir up much debate, but there were some great arguments from both sides.
One thing is for certain though, nothing will change.
In my youth, as an apprentice I was given a book called "The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist" by Robert Tressel.
It changed my life forever, it's about the working class hoping for change, and the overall message is that no matter who you vote for, nothing ever changes, the rich get rich and the poor get poorer, I'm 65 now and have never ever voted because of this, and I've been proven right time and time again over the years.
Best of luck to the Jocks, but believe me, nothing will change.
One thing is for certain though, nothing will change.
In my youth, as an apprentice I was given a book called "The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist" by Robert Tressel.
It changed my life forever, it's about the working class hoping for change, and the overall message is that no matter who you vote for, nothing ever changes, the rich get rich and the poor get poorer, I'm 65 now and have never ever voted because of this, and I've been proven right time and time again over the years.
Best of luck to the Jocks, but believe me, nothing will change.
Cracking thread BC. Some great arguments made from everyone.
Have to disagree with you though on change. Things will change. The problem, as you say is that change is so slow, almost imperceptible at times, that the man on the street barely notices. There will be changes, most notably on tax and a country in charge of its own taxation will usually feel it has some control over it's own destiny. To that extent there'll be a perception of less hostility to Parliament over the next 5 - 15 years or so. As for the man on the street, he almost always thinks he's paying too much tax. As long as taxation is seen as progressive most people will be relatively happy, and that's what the Scots are pushing parliament towards now, a more progressive taxation policy. So thanks for that, in the longer term.
As for not voting, my old man used to say, if you don't vote, you got no right to complain, and if it goes against you, at least you had your say.
Forever the optimist is Blunham Mackem, I have a lot of time for you pal, I wish I had more optimism at times.
.Forever the optimist is Blunham Mackem, I have a lot of time for you pal, I wish I had more optimism at times.