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O/T Scottish Independence

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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    I'm pleased the Scots voted no but I'm still a bit pissed off that the English, Northern Irish & Welsh had no say in the break up of the UK.
    If I was Scottish I wouldn't be hanging on to long for change either.
    The three main parties are full of wind & piss & empty promises.

    It's like Cameron's promise of a referendum on EU membership if he wins the next election.
    It will never happen because he knows full well as much as I do what the outcome will be.

    The Lie Dems have u turned on almost everything they said in their manifesto.
    Who the **** would trust them?
    I hope they get a right twatting & sail off into the political abyss.

    Somebody mentioned Salmond making a fortune on the after dinner speaking circuit.
    Well he may well do but personally I wouldn't pay a tab paper to listen to that fat twat spout his claptrap.
     
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  2. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    I see Dev's gone missing.
     
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  3. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Aye mate, i'm crying into my cornflakes here. Gutted that my job is safe for the forseeable future and beyond (I work for a Government Quango).

    I voted Yes because I wanted to see some real change, unfortunately it seems the people who had most to gain and the least to lose from Independence, the over 65s and the people who live in the areas of highest deprivation, shat themselves.

    Hell mend them I say, in a while, when Cameron, Clegg and Milliband renege on their promises I will be able to say to these mugs, "I ****ing told you so".

    <laugh>
     
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  4. Billy Death

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    As far as the promises go mate, I think you are spot on.
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    People saw sense, good on them, We're stronger together, at the moment, but it shouldn't be off the table permanently, it's about timing. Now we've got a General Election coming up. Time to get the Tories out.
     
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  6. Montysoptician

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    Cheers mate, just checked Amazon, that will be the next book I read <ok>
     
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  7. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    It wasn't the result I wanted, but have to respect the democratic process. Fair play to the Scots from both sides of the argument for turning out in great numbers to vote. Shows that when there is actually something that people know will affect them and not just be window dressing that people will make the effort to vote.

    I won't lose any sleep over the result as I was a supporter of Yes becasue I believe the current domination of London and the South-East is wrong, rather than feeling strongly that Scotland should be independent. I am very sceptical that Westminster will keep its promises to Scotland but I hope it does. If it does then that means that things need to be shaken up for the rest of the UK too. An English parliament in London will do no good at all for us up here in the North-East. We need proper representation at a regional level rather than being part of another layer of government that is even more dominated by South -East MP's than the current system. I have far more in common with someone from Edinburgh or Glasgow than I do with someone from Henley on Thames. Would love to see things change properly but i am not holding my breath.
     
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  8. its been fun thanks :)

    its been fun thanks :) ♬♬Badum-tish! ♬♬
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    [video=youtube;LbJif7vISQg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
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  9. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Salmons is standing down anyway. He had no choice imo.
     
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  10. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    He should have done it a long time ago. I lived and worked in Scotland for a long time and came to the conclusion that you had so many mentalities in such a small population. I was based in Edinburgh but lived in South Queensferry and the attitude of the cosmopolitan Edinburgh towards anything was like 'ask me next week after I think about it', on the west side the attitude was totally different and that goes for warmth and friendship as well, they see something they like and they go for it, I fekkin really like those people. Over the bridge and into Fife it was quite different but in general the people were sound and good, honest people to do business with..
     
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  11. Billy Death

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    Bye bye alex. There's a boat called Political Abyss waiting for you.
    Just enjoyed watching you cry on Sky News you slug.
     
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  12. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Aye but you're under Brenda's thumb man.
    Gan & mack something with some wood.
     
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  13. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    not reading the thread, but

    haha, **** you you daft sweaty ****s.
     
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  14. calmcumbrian

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    Spat the dummy out when he didn't get his own way,poor loser,Alec,eh!!!
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    You would have posted that whatever the result.
     
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  16. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    that's true like..

    just trying to stir the pot..
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I know, so was I <whistle>
     
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  18. Riever

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    Ultimately, history will show that Alex and his cronies were not the visionaries they like to believe but were instead the ones solely responsible for the failure of Scotland getting independence. The Better Together campaign was so inept that it was the Yes campaigns vote to lose and boy did they manage that. The SNP have had years to refine their proposal and to have persuasive arguments around all of the tricky subjects such as currency, the NHS, EU membership, defence etc but instead spent the time poncing around self promoting which meant they had no answers at all when it came to the crunch.

    I strongly believe that if the SNP had had credible, highly intelligent leaders instead of the rabble rousers they have, Scotland would be an independent country today.
     
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