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O/T Scottish Independence

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Blind Corner, Sep 10, 2014.

  1. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    Cheers mate. Yes, she's fine and probably enjoying being able to tell everyone all about it if I'm honest. The thing is, she's not as tough as she thinks and you never know what a fall would do. As far as I know the other lady is fine too and its no harm done all round. You're right about them being scum.
     
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  2. Billy Death

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    Hmm. so one polis thought it was the Orange Order whilst Dev thought it was the EDL?
    Why not bring the UVF, UFF. UDA, UDR into it & blame them?

    Why the **** would the winning side cause trouble?
     
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  3. Billy Death

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    I bet King Billy had a hand in it as well?
    Lord have mercy, the ****ing fenians. <doh>
     
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  4. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    That's a very good question Billy.

    As for who was behind it, I only have one person's account first hand. That account does fit with what the media are reporting too tho.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-29294562
     
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  5. Billy Death

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    I bet it was your Brenda.
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Have you not been paying attention? I have given my opinion which you clearly disagree with but what the hell do you think people wanted when they voted Yes? Change.

    What does it matter what the winning margin was, the cause is unchanged by the result, the hope was for change, a change in how democracy works, changes in the way we make and spend money, changes in the way our people are given a voice, many many changes. I don't honestly know how you can think that's something that you can argue about and expect to convince anyone.
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    Dev still says the EDL were involved, Dev also says the LOL were involved, and some Rangers fans too, Dev did not want to go down that road in case he was accused of point scoring, he forgot that people will think him biased if accuses anyone of wrongdoing who is not Irish or a Celtic fan.

    Lots of the far right were involved, so if you don't know why the winning side would cause trouble then you have obviously lived a sheltered life. These scum, the dregs of society, do not need an excuse for trouble, it's in their psyche.
     
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  8. DevAdvocate

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  9. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    It matters because it was a democratic process in which the majority decided to remain part of the UK and the minority continue promote their failed ideals.

    The majority had the sense to see through the false promises and pipe dreams of the 'yes' campaign who should now accept the result and stop ****ing whinging.

    And yes, I have been paying attention and what I see from what you have posted, is a bitter person who can not accept a democratic decision by continuing their futile argument. <ok>
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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    So why does the winning margin matter when 45% voted for change? Is that proof that NO ONE wanted change? <confused>

    And i'm not whinging, so if you've seen evidence of it elsewhere then you must read a different paper to me, or watch different news programmes. People have accepted but the debate will naturally continue .
     
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  11. Montysoptician

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    You have no concept of democracy have you?
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Answer a question with a question heh?

    I'm out.
     
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  13. Montysoptician

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    At last, a bit of common sense <ok>
     
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  14. Commachio

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    Unlike the majority of Scottish voters.<whistle>
     
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  15. The Relic

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    I think the need for change in the way British democracy works and the need for Scottish independence are somewhat different matters. A lot of people in the north and south-west of England would agree that the system needs updating. That doesn't mean that we'd be better off dividing and sub-dividing into smaller and smaller tribes however.

    The 45% yes vote has probably been a wake-up call for Westminster, and that's good. The SNP's basic principle is, however, sh*t and the wrong way to go about it.
     
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  16. Billy Death

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    A sheltered life? I've lead owt but!!!
    Dregs of society you say?
    Like the knackers who sing pro IRA songs at Paradise Park?
    Is that what you mean?
     
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  17. Montysoptician

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    My feelings exactly <ok>
     
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  18. Montysoptician

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    :emoticon-0105-wink: .
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

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    You've not lived a sheltered life but you have not seen the extreme right wing join forces in an attempt to cobble together a single brain? You should get out more.

    As for pro IRA songs at Celtic Park (Not Paradise Park), that's a different subject entirely, and a neutral (or even a biased observer) can smell a subject being changed at a mile off. We were discussing the events at George Square I believe and the wider implications of the referendum? Try and stay On Topic <ok>
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

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    That I won't engage you in pathetic arguments? Indeed, I do possess common sense and as you are unable to read, it would be a wholly futile exercise in trying to alter a closed mind.

    Maybe you should read what I said instead of reading what you think I said.
     
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