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The FRENCH TICKLER said:
ALL CHANGE FOR THE BURY GAME.

However, Burnley away is another issue. Based on last season's Burnley away game I don't think it is one that either Diame or Hernandez should start.

Burnley will want to hit us hard from the off. So park the bus and see how the first hour goes. imo.
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Absolutely mental, so you're suggesting we sit off a team that just put 4 past a decent Derby side, who's team contains probably one of the best strikers in the league?

That'll definitely work, I bet they've been practising that in training all week.
 
Sterling Archer said:
When was it decided that 30 is the year when players start to be over the hill? Considering these lads turn pro at 16-18, surely they'd be getting worse at around 26? What's the difference between somebody who is 29 and somebody playing at 31? What kind of breakdown does the body go through in 18 months? None. It's made up bollocks and it's all to do with sell on fees and money which is ******ed.

Somebody better tell Ibrahimovic to jack it now, he must be well ****, he was 30 years ago.
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OLM has already conceded that people over 30 are more likely to be injured, so give it up.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Yeah but he's just made that up, there's no technical difference between a player at 31 and a player at 32, so why should the length of their contract be any different based on a year, it's mental.
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Because of the liklihood of injury. It increases year on year. Obviously there will be individual players who are an exception - in the Australian Rules league here there's a bloke running around who is 38. That doesn't mean all 30 year olds should be offered 8 year deals.

30-33 is that age range where players' bodies can really catch up with them coming back from the off-season. The drop off can be sharp.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
OLM has already conceded that people over 30 are more likely to be injured, so give it up.
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But what is it based on exactly? Why 30 and not 32 or 28? It's down to individual players, the magic number of 30 that fans look at and think "over the hill" has been intensified because of transfer deadlines and players being world class at 18 like Pogba. People look at those players and think "great, he's this good at 18, imagine how good he'll be at 25." If you sign a player that's over 30, for some reason people instantly think "he's over the hill and probably not worth the money." I'd love to see fan's reaction when we signed Kevin Kilbane. Weird how times change, when we signed Kilbane we had agreed a fee for Steve Finnan and were in advanced talks with Luis Boa Morte.
 
Sterling Archer said:
But what is it based on exactly? Why 30 and not 32 or 28? It's down to individual players, the magic number of 30 that fans look at and think "over the hill" has been intensified because of transfer deadlines and players being world class at 18 like Pogba. People look at those players and think "great, he's this good at 18, imagine how good he'll be at 25." If you sign a player that's over 30, for some reason people instantly think "he's over the hill and probably not worth the money." I'd love to see fan's reaction when we signed Kevin Kilbane. Weird how times change, when we signed Kilbane we had agreed a fee for Steve Finnan and were in advanced talks with Luis Boa Morte.
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Might want to check my follow up post.
 
Would you rather have a 26 year old Michael Dawson or a 32 year old Michael Dawson? According to you there wouldn't be any difference and if anything you'd rather the 32 year old.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Because the older you get the more susceptible you are to injury as your body wears down, really not sure how that's a serious question from you.
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Yes that tends to happen noticeably around 60-70 years old and over a period of 20 odd years, not between the ages of 29 and 31. Old is relative. I play football twice a week for 90 minutes and I've yet to suffer more injuries than I did when I was 16. I can see your point but it simply cannot be applied as a rule of thumb because every footballer is different. Each player should be judged on their merits rather than a made up idea that makes no sense.

Age is relative, 30 isn't old really, most footballers retire between 36 and 40, six years is a long time, look what we've done in less time.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Yes that tends to happen noticeably around 60-70 years old and over a period of 20 odd years, not between the ages of 29 and 31. Old is relative. I play football twice a week for 90 minutes and I've yet to suffer more injuries than I did when I was 16. I can see your point but it simply cannot be applied as a rule of thumb because every footballer is different. Each player should be judged on their merits rather than a made up idea that makes no sense.

Age is relative, 30 isn't old really, most footballers retire between 36 and 40, six years is a long time, look what we've done in less time.
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Thank you. Now we can drop it.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Would you rather have a 26 year old Michael Dawson or a 32 year old Michael Dawson? According to you there wouldn't be any difference and if anything you'd rather the 32 year old.
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Well yeah, the Dawson we have now has a wealth of experience. The younger Dawson might not have turned out as good had he signed for us at 26. He has an injury now, but look at some of the other players we've signed over 30 that have been fine. Deano for one, Koren another.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Well yeah, the Dawson we have now has a wealth of experience. The younger Dawson might not have turned out as good had he signed for us at 26. He has an injury now, but look at some of the other players we've signed over 30 that have been fine. Deano for one, Koren another.
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That's as stupid as you're making out my comment to be. That seems to imply you'd rather we sign James Chester once he hits 30 because he doesn't have enough experience before then.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
You acknowledging where I'm coming from was all that was needed.
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Is this a point scoring exercise ?
You highlighted the first few words in one of Sterling's sentences, yet neglected to acknowledge/comment on the last part of the same sentence.
Where's your rebuttal to that observation ?
 
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