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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by cheshireles, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    That was Walton's fault.

    The ****.
     
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  2. AlRawdah

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    One or two premier league teams have a policy of generally not signing outfield players over 30, and offering players of that age short contract renewals. Chelsea is one, I think.
     
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  3. dennisboothstash

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    I'm not entirely sure that we're in the same position as Chelsea when it comes to determining our transfer strategy !
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    Is that the same Chelsea who just gave 30 year old Cahill a new four year deal?

    And Drogba was about 46 when they re-signed him.
     
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  5. SydneyTiger14

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    I never thought I'd see the day OLM conceded in an argument with me.

    That was all I ever said.
     
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  6. SydneyTiger14

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    How many games has Maloney started? What a waste of money.

    As OLM has conceded, older players are more injury prone, particularly to soft tissue injuries. Dawson missed a chunk of last season and has now had two separate injuries this season.
     
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  7. SydneyTiger14

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    What are you on about? Cahill wants out of the club because he isn't getting a game ahead of the Euros.

    He also signed his new deal when he was 29, presumably to boost his sale value when they get rid of him and promote Zouma, who isn't 30.

    And Drogba was on a one year deal.. and that was a brilliant acquisition for them wasn't it?
     
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  8. Bengals Tiger

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    How many faces do you two have? More than just the two, each?
     
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  9. Bengals Tiger

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    Pleonastic foul-mouthery. Are you the designated Big Gob for a few days? Don't bother to tell me to **** off. Please. Thank you.
     
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  10. King Curtis

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    There is a greater risk of injury with a player as they get older, though it is a ****ing stupid reason not to sign someone. Stupid when you consider a 39-year-old scored the most famous goal in our history and is one of our most celebrated players. Even if these players are ever injured, the experience and know how they can share with players as a team's form drops or improves during a season can surely be of benefit to the team.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Seriously, why do you bother coming on here?

    Is your life so pitifully dull, that the best thing you can find to do with your time is fall out with people on the internet?
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    I never argued that older players weren't more prone to injury, just that it wasn't significant enough a factor for us to not sign these players, which is what you claimed.
     
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  13. cheshireles

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    As the saying goes, 'you win nowt with kids'. Any successful team is generally going to consist of a blend of younger and older (c30+) players. The onus is on the coaching staff to recognise the limits of individual players to ensure that they are match fit on a consistent basis and injuries are minimised. Can you avoid injuries absolutely not; unless you have a team full of wimps. Would I want Daws as an example along with the injuries he's unfortunately had, or not? I know my preference
     
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  14. Bengals Tiger

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    No, not at all. I actually don't spend much time on here. You may be confusing me with someone else.
     
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    Shame about Maloney If he fails to be fit. He would be a shoe in to start @ Bury imo.
     
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  16. cheshireles

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    Start him in the 5th round :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  17. Steven Toast

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    When was it decided that 30 is the year when players start to be over the hill? Considering these lads turn pro at 16-18, surely they'd be getting worse at around 26? What's the difference between somebody who is 29 and somebody playing at 31? What kind of breakdown does the body go through in 18 months? None. It's made up bollocks and it's all to do with sell on fees and money which is ******ed.

    Somebody better tell Ibrahimovic to jack it now, he must be well ****, he was 30 years ago.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Most base it on Wenger. This was from 2010. I think Arteta was complaining at 32 about only being offered a year deal the last couple of years. He got a year deal this season, only 33 but has missed loads of games.

    "Arsène Wenger has admitted he is now willing to relax his "over-30s rule" by signing older players on longer deals, having previously only offered them one-year contracts. The Arsenal manager also indicated that no players moving on from the club would be sold to Premier League rivals.

    When he was hoping to keep the 33-year-old William Gallas at Arsenal this summer, Wenger confirmed his usual policy was to offer a 12-month contract. "Yes, unfortunately that is the rule here," he said. But having completed the €4m (£3.3m) signing of the 30-year-old Sébastien Squillaci on a three-year contract from Sevilla the Frenchman clarified his policy, saying it can depend on a player's position.

    Wenger said: "It's not over 30, it's over 32. So when you have a player [who is] 32 he will just get a one-year contract. It depends on the positions as well. If a central defender, then no problem to sign them until 34. But a striker is different. After 32 you go from year to year. A midfielder as well, after 32 you go from year-to-year."
     
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  19. bobby ace

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    Bad idea. Try that and Burnley will be a couple of goals to the good after half an hour. They know how to maintain pressure high up the pitch and have the right players for the system. That is the kind of game they are most comfortable playing. Best to go at them, stop them playing a pressing game.
     
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  20. Steven Toast

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    Yeah but he's just made that up, there's no technical difference between a player at 31 and a player at 32, so why should the length of their contract be any different based on a year, it's mental.
     
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