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And it is no coincidence that clubs with long standing managers are generally more successful.

True, but it's a chicken and egg situation, trigger fingers are not the answer, but neither is sticking with failure, its all down to timing imo, and in this current situation I would have given Ross till Xmas, but would have sounded out his replacement before making a move in public, risky I know, but sadly, all is fair in love and war.
 
My problem with him, and possibly the attraction for Donald, is that he's another Ross.

As with the takeover I keep getting the feeling that Donald wants to retain control.

He's having the time of his life at Sunderland and he'll never be at such a big club ever again.

Pearson or SKP wouldn't allow him to interfere and I'm sure the Americans feel the same.

The danger is that he holds the club back for his own personal benefit.
I agree except with the KP part - he wouldn't in my opinion have the character and personality to stand up to owners in his first big gig.
 
I agree except with the KP part - he wouldn't in my opinion have the character and personality to stand up to owners in his first big gig.
I think in general most posters rightly or wrongly are assuming they would be a duo with Pearson at the helm which would be my choice and many others , KP would benefit in learning from someone he has worked for previously at a club he loves .
 
My problem with him, and possibly the attraction for Donald, is that he's another Ross.

As with the takeover I keep getting the feeling that Donald wants to retain control.

He's having the time of his life at Sunderland and he'll never be at such a big club ever again.

Pearson or SKP wouldn't allow him to interfere and I'm sure the Americans feel the same.

The danger is that he holds the club back for his own personal benefit.

I guess we're going to find out soon enough...

Just want a man in who understands what SAFC is all about.....

This appointment is vital so please ,don't just go for the cheapest option...
 
I guess we're going to find out soon enough...

Just want a man in who understands what SAFC is all about.....

This appointment is vital so please ,don't just go for the cheapest option...

The problem, for me, is that I can see Parkinson accepting a contract until the summer and using the existing staff.

If that happens Donald will see his support plummet.
 
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Parkinson's effectiveness has been mixed, to say the least.
 

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The problem, for me, is that I can see Parkinson accepting a contract until the summer and using the existing staff.

If that happens Donald will see his support plummet.

If he wants to sack Ross he has to stand by the consequences that brings, especially financial. He can't do it on the cheap.

I think the Parkinson appointment would go down like a lead balloon, and Donald might find himself being hounded out eventually.
 
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If he wants to sack Ross he has to stand by the consequences that brings, especially financial. He can't do it on the cheap.

I think the Parkinson appointment would go down like a lead balloon, and Donald might find himself being hounded out eventually.

As majority shareholder he can't be hounded out ....

... he could become our Mike Ashley and I'm not kidding.

Do you recall someone drinking with the lads, wearing the colours, selfies down the pub <doh>

They always say history repeats itself ....
 
For accuracy - Ross was a full back.
Well I read he played across the defence and mostly at cb. I believe he also spent time playing in midfield.
Doesnt really lessen my argument or statement much. In his 'defence' as a player he was very very low on the food chain.
 
As majority shareholder he can't be hounded out ....

... he could become our Mike Ashley and I'm not kidding.

Do you recall someone drinking with the lads, wearing the colours, selfies down the pub <doh>

They always say history repeats itself ....

I thought the same after reading what you said in the takeover thread. Surely Donald can't be as stubborn and contrary as Ashley...there's certainly echoes of him though.
 
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As majority shareholder he can't be hounded out ....

... he could become our Mike Ashley and I'm not kidding.

Do you recall someone drinking with the lads, wearing the colours, selfies down the pub <doh>

They always say history repeats itself ....
Mike Ashley can afford to be stubborn.
By all accounts his net worth ranges between 1.5bn to 2bn.
He is immune to any cheap shots in replica shirts and bad haircuts.
Donald on the other hand is worth well under 10m and he is responsible for the liabilities this club incurs.
He wants to make a profit on this club. He didnt take over the club because of Netflix or terminal altruism. Fair enough.
But if he tried to run it down he would lose big time and wouldnt recover.
Comparing him with ashley is comparing a 20 yo mondeo with a brand new top of the range ferrari
 
As majority shareholder he can't be hounded out ....

... he could become our Mike Ashley and I'm not kidding.

Do you recall someone drinking with the lads, wearing the colours, selfies down the pub <doh>

They always say history repeats itself ....

Hounded out the same as Bob Murray was I mean, by the fans.

He's massively egotistical, no doubt.

Being on the podcasts, in the pub, in the crowds, Trafalgar Square, etc. etc. - he loves being centre of attention so it wouldn't surprise me if he's trying to control everything.
 
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As majority shareholder he can't be hounded out ....

... he could become our Mike Ashley and I'm not kidding.

Do you recall someone drinking with the lads, wearing the colours, selfies down the pub <doh>

They always say history repeats itself ....
Exactly who I thought of as soon he started doing it
 
Well I read he played across the defence and mostly at cb. I believe he also spent time playing in midfield.
Doesnt really lessen my argument or statement much. In his 'defence' as a player he was very very low on the food chain.
I didn't say that it did alter your argument. He certainly came to Hartlepool as a full back and was played there during his time at Pools.
 
SKP and Jim White on talksport now saying theyve heard that theres an appointment today and SKP says he will be happy to be involved in a coaching role, a position he said he wouldnt do before....hopefully its Nigel Pearson then
Hope so...but someone intimating the exact opposite from the same interview over on PF.