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marcusblackcat said:
Heckingbottom confirmed it and has his weekly Barnsley press conference tomorrow. If he said “yeah I’ve spoken to them and it’s ongoing” he’d be hounded. He’s flat batted it. I reckon we’ve spoken to him and he’s doing the right thing by his club. Just an opinion of course.

Echo say O’Neill turned us down whilst others say we haven’t spoken to him. Some papers say Heckingbottom turned us down. Who do you believe? I’ll just wait till I hear from the club as the papers seem to know nothing
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O'Neill could've turned us down by refusing to speak to us. Same difference.
 
DAPARKERSAFC said:
Curious to know why you think that?

Sacked by Coventry after their worst finish in 45 years in his last real stint in club management.

Hes been pretty fortunate at Wales. Inherited Gary Speeds good work and a golden generation of Welsh players including Gareth Bale who has carried the team.

People have joked they don't want Karanka because of his accent. Is there a worse sound than Welsh??? :-/
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DAPARKERSAFC said:
Curious to know why you think that?

Sacked by Coventry after their worst finish in 45 years in his last real stint in club management.

Hes been pretty fortunate at Wales. Inherited Gary Speeds good work and a golden generation of Welsh players including Gareth Bale who has carried the team.

People have joked they don't want Karanka because of his accent. Is there a worse sound than Welsh??? :-/
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Aye Brummie.
 
marcusblackcat said:
I wonder why Everton haven't appointed - they must be just as amateur?
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To be honest Marcus, I couldn't give a shiny ****e about Everton or any other club, all I care about is my club and right now Sunderland are acting like a bunch of amateurs and as a supporter that concerns me. If you think we are dealing with this well, then OK...I happen to think different.
 
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jdsafc said:
I think he's lacking in interpersonal skills mate. Ostracises himself from those around him by being arrogant.

It's a real shame coz he has so much to offer. Tactically superb.
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Should fit in canny here then cos the lazy bastard players have ostracised them selves from the fans the last 5 years.
 
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flandersmackem said:
To be honest Marcus, I couldn't give a shiny ****e about Everton or any other club, all I care about is my club and right now Sunderland are acting like a bunch of amateurs and as a supporter that concerns me. If you think we are dealing with this well, then OK...I happen to think different.
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Totally agree with you. This is getting ridiculous now. Same old same old with the people at the top. Knee jerk reaction in sacking the manager straight after the Bolton match with no plan B. I'm sick to death of the amateurish way that our club is run and long for the day when Short finally sells and does one.
 
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Burly Hurley said:
O'Neill could've turned us down by refusing to speak to us. Same difference.
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Paul Heckingbottom, aged 40: just under 3-years in Management with one club....his home town. Just what Oshea, Cattermole and some of the wasters will require for another managerial scalp during their time at the club. Stay at Barnsley lad, and continue building up that reputation. We are toxic and require a manager with a lot more experience, balls of steel and........and fek-in-hell what are the Sunderland board members trying to do? send us all mmmmmad?
 
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A few days after Speedo, who I had a lot of time for, died, Coleman was on TV talking about how gutted he was to lose his great mate. He also went on about how he wanted the Wales job. Felt like horrible timing to me. Found it a bit sickening to be honest. Never liked him since then
 
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Brian Storm said:
I don't think their was any panic, there's a whole application process. What I think happened is we formed a shortlist, invited members of that list to be applicants, and non of them applied forcing us interview uninvited applicants and Grayson was the best on offer.

I think we're unappealing with well documented deep rooted problems with no transfer budget and without enough financial reward to attract anybody of worth. It's not rash decision making. Imo it's entirely resource related. We can't force people to aply and we can only hire from the applicants. I think it's much more likely we're just not appealing enough.
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We're like that crap car at the auction that no one ever buys.
 
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Brian Storm said:
deja vu, More successful short term fixes than enough have contributed to well over 100m for debt and our eventual relegation. It's not the way to run a football club. And that's proven beyond doubt in my mind based on the amount of times we've fallen foul of it. If we went down under MoN instead of panicking over and over and over looking for short term responses which work for a few month at great cost only to fail, we'd have a fraction of the debt and be in much better shape.

Short term fixes are proven failed policy imo. We just keep going round in circles making the same mistake again and again and again, fans encourage it then take no responsibility when it goes wrong, in fact they point the finger at the club despite all parties being on the same page at the time of sackings. This club and massive chunk it's supporters embarrass me.
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Who was it we got relegated with but kept with the manager, got promoted straight back up and did ok.
Of the top of my head I'm thinking Peter Reid or Mick Mack; either way that's proof that you need to stick with your decision and look longer term
I know a few people that have started businesses and went through hell, could quite easily have quit, but no, kept going, realised where they where going wrong or what they had to do to improve. And guess what, you'll never guess. They succeeded with there long term plan.
 
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