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I think they are genuine. It can't be denied that things haven't been going right so far in 2024 but I wonder if anyone who wants rid of them have pondered on the comparisons between the current owners and people like Donald & Methven, Michael Knighton at Carlisle, Chansiri at Wednesday, Dai Yongge at Reading, Peter Ridsdale and his profligate spending at Leeds, or even the owners of the exercise in propaganda up the road.
This, it makes you wonder how some go on, who they actually want. More murderers?
 
Actions speak louder than...however weve seen no actions...thats why the WTF
But that doesn’t mean there are no actions. Without them parading someone they haven’t signed, what actions do you want? I get it’s taken far longer than it should, but the “actions” in this context I would say are the actual appointing of the head coach.
 
I think they are genuine. It can't be denied that things haven't been going right so far in 2024 but I wonder if anyone who wants rid of them have pondered on the comparisons between the current owners and people like Donald & Methven, Michael Knighton at Carlisle, Chansiri at Wednesday, Dai Yongge at Reading, Peter Ridsdale and his profligate spending at Leeds, or even the owners of the exercise in propaganda up the road.
Ownership changes also eat up so much time and as you say are a lottery. I like KLD and want him to be better and better the club instead of selling to someone who may or may not take us on.
 
Leicester have only been managerless for 15 days
Burnley have only been managerless for 20 days
Took Brighton 29 days to appoint their manager

Sunderland 120 days and still no sign of one. Can't really compare them

We had a head coach for the vast majority of that time as well you know. Interim or not, he was head coach and he was in the job longer than Beale was. No point erasing that.

This sort of comment detracts from a very real and very fair criticism of the club and what out problem is.

We are now at 45 days since the season ended. No exaggeration. Not really good enough. Clearly the first 28 days of the hunt we were all in on Will Still and if we had got him, most would have been pleased.

Realistically the failure is that we don't seem to have hedged our bets/done due diligence on other candidates and that has left us coachless for 17 days or whatever it is since Still had his head turned.

120 days is just reductive. 45 days is a fair statement.

However, all will likely be forgiven if they bring in the right man before pre season and a few quality signings that turn the squad around before we start again in earnest.
 
Ideal situation here is that Regis Le Bris is actually coming in to replace Speakman...

He did manage Lorients academy for years and did a stint as Director of Football.

Then we hire Cifuentes or Maric as head coach.

Speakman being replaced might explain why this **** show has gone on as long as it has.
 
Are any of those sides north of 120 days without a permanent coach?

Its alright to be critical where its due you know. This has been handled poorly.

Again. 120 days is just silly. We had an interim head coach. Why would we have hired a permanent head coach. We didn't need two head coaches.

It's 45 days.

This isn't me defending the club. I'm pretty arsey at the club. But 45 days ought to be a strong enough criticism without the need to turn to hyperbole which makes us look obtuse and unreasonable in our complaints.
 
Again. 120 days is just silly. We had an interim head coach. Why would we have hired a permanent head coach. We didn't need two head coaches.

It's 45 days.

This isn't me defending the club. I'm pretty arsey at the club. But 45 days ought to be a strong enough criticism without the need to turn to hyperbole which makes us look obtuse and unreasonable in our complaints.
For me, Its been a money saving exercise by the club from the 19th January until the new season starts... Its been a "Lets wait until as late as possible before we commit to a new Coach"..
 
Again. 120 days is just silly. We had an interim head coach. Why would we have hired a permanent head coach. We didn't need two head coaches.

It's 45 days.

This isn't me defending the club. I'm pretty arsey at the club. But 45 days ought to be a strong enough criticism without the need to turn to hyperbole which makes us look obtuse and unreasonable in our complaints.
It’s fair to say that the owner has had 120 days to at least look at candidates.. I find it hard to believe they didn’t put out feelers during the time Didds was in charge.. if that’s the case then 45 days after a 75 day opportunity to scour the market is still way too long
 
Again. 120 days is just silly. We had an interim head coach. Why would we have hired a permanent head coach. We didn't need two head coaches.

It's 45 days.

This isn't me defending the club. I'm pretty arsey at the club. But 45 days ought to be a strong enough criticism without the need to turn to hyperbole which makes us look obtuse and unreasonable in our complaints.
Get the point you are making, but the search didnt just start 45 days ago. The '120 days' isnt applicable to 'no head coach' as you say, but it doesnt mean there shouldnt of been significant work done in preparation for a post season appointment. I cant give the club the benefit of the doubt by saying they've only had 45 days personally. The amount of time they had with Dodds as interim makes the time its taking post season look even worse from my perspective.
 
When that plod on quote was made, did he say until when?
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...tract-talks-potential-summer-decision-4505228

KS: We're really proud that we've got a talented group and when you've got that, you're going to get that backhanded compliment of the phone ringing on multiple occasions and people are going to try and prise those players away. I think it's a huge success for us to get through a January window especially where we haven't lost a player of that calibre, you only have to look at other teams in the league who unfortunately have lost big players midway through a campaign. That's not us and that's a real positive for us as a club. I think that ultimately, the lads are really, really happy. They enjoy being in the group and everything about Sunderland, so we'll plod on to the end of the season and see where that gets us.
 
Again. 120 days is just silly. We had an interim head coach. Why would we have hired a permanent head coach. We didn't need two head coaches.

It's 45 days.

This isn't me defending the club. I'm pretty arsey at the club. But 45 days ought to be a strong enough criticism without the need to turn to hyperbole which makes us look obtuse and unreasonable in our complaints.

Hmmmmm I'm not entirely sure about this as my reason is that the club knew all along that Dodds was not a 'permanent' head coach but rather interim on the basis that it would allow them enough time to learn from mistakes, identify targets, shortlist, interview and agree on an appointment.

They were fully aware that Dodds would be stepping down from the head coach role as soon as he agreed to tale over as interim, they always knew we'd need a new head coach going into this season. Soeakman even mentioned in March at the supporters meeting that they'd began the process to sort the new head coach.

I don't think it's unfair to use 120 days because that's exactly how long they've had since Beale was sacked to sort out a permanent one for this season. Even if we take that interim period for them to 'learn' and evaluate what went wrong, it was in Speakmans own words in March that the process had begun. So even if we use that as a barometer it's been over 70 days.


Either way, I think we can all agree it's not been handled well