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Flash Gordon said:
I would have no problem at all accepting the positive side of this... But the club have to be better at understanding what their potential coaching pool is to recruit from.

Having specific parameters and approaching numerous coaches who would never accept such terms feels like STID season 1 when the scouts had Ibrahimovic written on a board.
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I think Rosenior's 'success' has gone to his head ...

... he was given a good squad and didn't even make the play-offs.

I'd love to see him do the same at Burnley.
 
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Been busy as hell. Looks like **** has happened but something **** more than useful ****. Any care to give me an objective summary? (You know who you are/arent)
 
Flash Gordon said:
I would have no problem at all accepting the positive side of this... But the club have to be better at understanding what their potential coaching pool is to recruit from.

Having specific parameters and approaching numerous coaches who would never accept such terms feels like STID season 1 when the scouts had Ibrahimovic written on a board.
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I'd agree that what I expect they're asking for is above and beyond the norm, limited if any of their own staff, limited input into recruitment, very likely appearance targets for some players (Jobe, Rigg) and to be open to modify playing style, probably adhoc requests and constant contact with Speakman required.

If you're saying it's too much, I can see that, but I think it's right on the line, a line that will turn off a lot of candidates but could attract the right one.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I think Rosenior's 'success' has gone to his head ...

... he was given a good squad and didn't even make the play-offs.

I'd love to see him do the same at Burnley.
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Whoever gets their job, will be expected to challenge for top 2. They’ve got some cracking players for this level.
 
Pure River Slut said:
Been busy as hell. Looks like **** has happened but something **** more than useful ****. Any care to give me an objective summary? (You know who you are/arent)
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Rosenior coming here isn't happening as he wants to be part of the Burnley process (which their owners have said they're in no hurry over) and he's withdrawn himself from our own process.

Sorry mate, I know you were very keen on Rosenior being our head coach.
 
Let's face it, Rosenior doesn't need to jump at the first opportunity, because he is still being paid by Hull, so can afford to bide his time until the right opportunity comes along.
He probably wants the Derby job, but will have to wait for their gaffer to get the push.
 
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alcoauth said:
I'd agree that what I expect they're asking for is above and beyond the norm, limited if any of their own staff, limited input into recruitment, very likely appearance targets for some players (Jobe, Rigg) and to be open to modify playing style, probably adhoc requests and constant contact with Speakman required.

If you're saying it's too much, I can see that, but I think it's right on the line, a line that will turn off a lot of candidates but could attract the right one.
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I don't care too much about the specific terms. It bothers me more than they've imposed them (allegedly) and are still expecting to appoint from pretty much the mainstream. They've misjudged it in my opinion
 
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Culinary said:
Rosenior coming here isn't happening as he wants to be part of the Burnley process (which their owners have said they're in no hurry over) and he's withdrawn himself from our own process.

Sorry mate, I know you were very keen on Rosenior being our head coach.
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Aye that’s a shame. Interesting that he’s in for a shout with a parachute club while some say he’s not good enough. We’ve chased the wrong people in my view then failed to land them. Don’t know the ins and outs, they’ll have a budget and one they’ll invest so I can see why he would do that. The owners need to think quickly about the failure to land bit and make us more attractive. A lot of fans and a nice training facility isn’t enough. Conditions, personalities and control will definitely be in the mix.
 
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If rosenior was the preferred candidate at this stage, then who will be left in the running that was thought of under him? Can’t even think of a name
 
alcoauth said:
I feel like we've got a very good thing going, not perfect, but better and more organised than most of the teams around us. This includes Speakman, KLD and the coaching staff. We don't have megabucks, and we're working within a specific remit that is a bit different to the majority of Championship clubs, so far this has worked very well, moving us from a top-8 League One team to a team that has very real Premier League ambitions. Last season was a disappointment on the pitch no doubt, but the team is essentially the same-one that got us into the playoffs the year before, so massive changes are not needed, just a coach with good ideas and a few tweaks to the playing staff (a striker the main one).

When you start to take out certain important pieces, as we did with Mowbray we started to see the wheels come off, I think we were 8th when Mowbray got sacked and although that was just a single man we weren't able to keep things together and ended up near the bottom. If we take out Speakman, whomever comes next will have a new spin on what has already been built and may decide to deconstruct it, which can take time, something I think we all agree, we don't have too much of.

We had more than a decade of sacking managers every 18-24 months, I'd really love us to find some consistency now.
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Christ almighty. If you look at the last 8 months as a ‘bump’ and still think we have a ‘good thing’ nothing can help you.

It’s easily as shambolic as the Donald years
 
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