New Head Coach

[Chunksafc]

We've still a lot of time before the lads are back and it's more important to make the correct appointment rather than one for the sake of appeasing some of our support, for all we know everything is sewn up and the announcement is set to take place two week from now.

What possible benefit would the club see in not announcing it?

They will have seen the mounting concern on social media and would surely see that an announcement would put an end to the growing nerves?

 

[Culinary]

Few otr hinting might be something happening today, probably a load of bollocks mind.

Banteriffic attention seekers.

 

[alcoauth]

What possible benefit would the club see in not announcing it?

They will have seen the mounting concern on social media and would surely see that an announcement would put an end to the growing nerves?

Maybe the coach is abroad at the moment (coaching course in Seattle) so an announcement would not accompany the obligatory pictures with shirt being held up and signing the contract etc

 

[Chunksafc]

Maybe the coach is abroad at the moment (coaching course in Seattle) so an announcement would not accompany the obligatory pictures with shirt being held up and signing the contract etc

I can't see that the club would not say a word if they had got their man. The noise is ramping up daily across all platforms and delaying an announcement wouldn't make sense.

Just my opinion though

 

[Disco down under]

Maybe the coach is abroad at the moment (coaching course in Seattle) so an announcement would not accompany the obligatory pictures with shirt being held up and signing the contract etc

Weirdly specific?

 

[Culinary]

The longer it goes, the worst the backlash from our fans is going to be if we announce a Robinson, Challinor, Heckingbottom or, even, a Rosenior. It’s going to be huge anyway mind.

Having had this go on so long now, it is going to have to be someone that a sizeable proportion of the fans are in favour of.

I’m not usually one for pandering to fans’ whims but the atmosphere welcoming an ‘underwhelming’ appointment would make the job nigh on an impossible task for the new man.

 

[Dorset]

Agree with this.

it’s as I’ve said for a long time. I’m fully behind the idea of the model. I really like it. I really like the structure of the club.

But the execution of it has been pretty poor in a lot of areas.

Our squad building has also been about opportunistic transfer value growth rather than trying to attempt to build a winning team with succession planning and based around a consistent playing identity.

Basically all the stuff Speakman said we’d do when he started, around player models etc, just hasn’t happened.

We are acting like a club that wants to look like it has a plan. But it doesn’t know how, or isn’t able, to carry out that plan.

Excellent post and bang on the money

 

[alcoauth]

Weirdly specific?

Random honestly, I chose a place it's not easy to get back from, could have said Perth or Auckland for the same effect.

 

[alcoauth]

The longer it goes, the worst the backlash from our fans is going to be if we announce a Robinson, Challinor, Heckingbottom or, even, a Rosenior. It’s going to be huge anyway mind.

Having had this go on so long now, it is going to have to be someone that a sizeable proportion of the fans are in favour of.

I’m not usually one for pandering to fans’ whims but the atmosphere welcoming an ‘underwhelming’ appointment would make the job nigh on an impossible task for the new man.

Not sure this is true, the vigour is waining, in two weeks time we'll take Heckingbottom and be happy about it.

 

[Wayne the Punk]

Haway Pascal, yer mam would love it

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[WorkyTicketFTM]

I admire anyone who has patience left at this point. I can feel myself getting more and more irritable.

They might be doing good business behind closed doors but it's a pretty big leap of faith to believe that on the form of the last 12 months.

I think I'm starting to actually fear the appointment and the transfer window that I was pinning my hopes on.

May not be a popular opinion on this board but it’s definitely the feeling amongst the majority of fans, that’s becoming obvious to see. Hopefully some positive news soon

 

[Pure River Slut]

Random honestly, I chose a place it's not easy to get back from, could have said Perth or Auckland for the same effect.

Only 45 minutes from bishop

 

[CR17]

Not sure this is true, the vigour is waining, in two weeks time we'll take Heckingbottom and be happy about it.

I can defo say I feel like most of the fans would be enraged if it's him, rightly so

 

[alcoauth]

I can defo say I feel like most of the fans would be enraged if it's him, rightly so

I'm not sure that's the case, but on here he is very unpopular that's true, I was talking to a few fellas in the pub yesterday a couple of Sunderland fans, a Darlo fan and a Leeds fan, when I mentioned Maric and Pascal Jansen, they were like, who are they? With a twisted face, Rosenior and Heckingbottom are known at least.

 

[Brainy Dose]

You've got your seasons mixed up, mate. I believe it is going to get down to 4 degrees here tonight.

Now is the winter of our discontent.

Sorry marra,I hate flying so I'll never go.....forgot it was coming winter for you!

 

[CR17]

I'm not sure that's the case, but on here he is very unpopular that's true, I was talking to a few fellas in the pub yesterday a couple of Sunderland fans, a Darlo fan and a Leeds fan, when I mentioned Maric and Pascal Jansen, they were like, who are they? With a twisted face, Rosenior and Heckingbottom are known at least.

I think it would depend on the age group i'd say

 

[Dorset]

The longer it goes, the worst the backlash from our fans is going to be if we announce a Robinson, Challinor, Heckingbottom or, even, a Rosenior. It’s going to be huge anyway mind.

Having had this go on so long now, it is going to have to be someone that a sizeable proportion of the fans are in favour of.

I’m not usually one for pandering to fans’ whims but the atmosphere welcoming an ‘underwhelming’ appointment would make the job nigh on an impossible task for the new man.

Sadly, I have to agree with you.

They have put themselves under unnecessary pressure due to their dillydallying over hiring a new head coach.

 

[Brainy Dose]

They interviewed multiple candidates, one of the Jansen, and then paid compensation for Thorup. Knapper had been tracking coaches for months even though they finished in the playoffs they always planned to sack Wagner. Thats succession planning, not the bollocks we are serving up.

Let's see if they've done the right thing.

 

[Nacho]

Can we get more certainty ??? We have had manager in our recent past who have been experienced and have been terrible so certainty is an odd term to use.
Look at Moyes or Coleman or even in L1 we had Parkinson all of which should have offered some level of professionalism but in truth were not very good. I think I am shifting more away from the run of the mill passengers on the management merry go round and hoping for a HC to attack the job with some new ideas and some excitement and vigor to re-energise the squad and bring some confidence back as I believe that is what we lacked this season. Luckily it is not my job to find that but I do think the safe pair of hands can be a bit deflating when their are options out there who may well move us forward.

I didn't use the word certainty but it's good enough to describe how I'm looking at it.

I'm seeing a squad with a lot of unproven young talent, that is unproven at being good enough to get us promoted, which finished the season very much in relegation form. A recruitment team that struggles to find quality players in key areas for their budget. A fanbase that gets increasingly hysterical every year.

Then looking at the coaches in contention I'm seeing people I know very little about as head coaches (I don't believe many if any on here do), some who haven't even done the job yet and those that have haven't managed in England.

I'm not suggesting we sign an experienced battleaxe but looking at Rosenior he's just finished 7th with a team not significantly better than ours (people will disagree but I don't care) and to my mind he's also an exciting young prospect who could grow with the club.

That's how I'm looking at it. Maybe I'm being too conservative and would miss out on the next Pep but I've got alarm bells ringing quietly. A lot depends on our business in the transfer window but I'm not exactly super confident about that either.

 

[Confucius]

And therein lies the problem. It must be incredibly difficult to succession plan in this business,there are so many short term variables. The days of seamless transfer from Shankly to Paisley to ***an....or Greenwood to Lyall.... with no change in philosophy or methodology are long gone in the modern world. I wouldn't mind betting Man City were thinking Pep to Arteta,no problem,....only to get undone.
It's up to the club to establish the philosophy and recruit the people to enact it. Unfortunately though,we could have a list as long as your arm of potential appointments as and when it becomes necessary,but that list could evaporate within weeks as all the other factors come into play.
I think that's what happened to us in the aftermath of Beale leaving. Targets we may have had as available,suddenly became unavailable...or at least unavailable for the time being.... and we've had to redraw the list,make fresh approaches and be patient...( something us fans don't really understand!)
In the face of the ever increasing barrage of criticism towards KS and the Board,it may be necessary for us to reflect that it might not be quite as easy as we think it is.

To be fair succession planning is the buzz phrase used by Speakman. I've said previously he spouts that much corporate talk he sets himself up for a fall. It also doesn't seem to be that difficult for other clubs, it was February man. People are quite rightly concerned because whilst head coaches wont be involved in negotiations, players will be interested in who they will be playing for.