New Head Coach

[Culinary]

Can’t quite believe we haven’t got someone in post yet. I know people have been saying this over and over again, but it really is madness. Season finished almost 5 weeks ago and we’ve had since February to line someone up.

But you said yourself that Still was basically done so that was someone lined up after the season end. Surely the count starts from when he sacked us off rather than the 110 days or five weeks or whatever?

The inactivity since the Still stuff stalled must surely be either that we’re sitting waiting for him with all our eggs in one basket or we’ve had to go back to the drawing board and the beginning of the process. Either way it’s really poor.

Is there any inbetween? I guess we could have given Still a deadline of say yesterday and we’ve got our fallback option ready to go if he says no, with just a couple of days to dot the i’s and cross the t’s.

 

[Brainy Dose]

To pick up on one point in your post.
The ideal would be to develop our own coaches so that we have someone ready to step into the role of Head Coach. If we do this correctly we will lose coaches as they are poached by other clubs but that should result in a slow influx of new ideas as different staff move through the ranks whilst retaining a central ethos of how we wish to play as a team. It also means that training would not be boring as new ideas and approaches would be brought in on a regular basis.
Unfortunately this will take many years to develop and cost quite a lot in time and money. In the modern game, i would contend, time and patience would be the biggest factor against implementing such a scheme.

Sadly,time and patience are in very short supply these days.

 

[Pure River Slut]

yeah but it was a problem for Bayern

Who have sorted it

 

[Disco down under]

I admire anyone who has patience left at this point. I can feel myself getting more and more irritable.

They might be doing good business behind closed doors but it's a pretty big leap of faith to believe that on the form of the last 12 months.

I think I'm starting to actually fear the appointment and the transfer window that I was pinning my hopes on.

 

[Culinary]

Wasn’t that hard for Norwich

There’s loads of clubs that are taking much longer mind. Norwich are almost the exception rather than the rule.

Brighton are generally recognised as a well run club. They still haven’t appointed anyone.

 

[Brainy Dose]

Who have sorted it

Yes,but is it the right appointment,or have they knee-jerked into something they'll come to regret.

 

[Brainy Dose]

I admire anyone who has patience left at this point. I can feel myself getting more and more irritable.

They might be doing good business behind closed doors but it's a pretty big leap of faith to believe that on the form of the last 12 months.

I think I'm starting to actually fear the appointment and the transfer window that I was pinning my hopes on.

Go out and wrestle with a crocodile,stand on a snake's head,cake yourself in Factor 50,have a Fosters and relax....fear not marra, good times just around the corner.

 

[Pure River Slut]

There’s loads of clubs that are taking much longer mind. Norwich are almost the exception rather than the rule.

Brighton are generally recognised as a well run club. They still haven’t appointed anyone.

When did they lose their coach ?

 

[Nordic]

Thankfully I am holiday, so more relaxed than most. Heading home tomorrow evening mind, and if we ain’t appointed someone by the weekend I’ll feed a tad more angst.

another week and I’ll get concerned we can’t prep fully for the season ahead.

but there’s **** all I can do about it, so no point in stressing.

anyway, back down the beach today

 

[SourPatch2]

Yes,but is it the right appointment,or have they knee-jerked into something they'll come to regret.

They interviewed multiple candidates, one of the Jansen, and then paid compensation for Thorup. Knapper had been tracking coaches for months even though they finished in the playoffs they always planned to sack Wagner. Thats succession planning, not the bollocks we are serving up.

 

[Disco down under]

Go out and wrestle with a crocodile,stand on a snake's head,cake yourself in Factor 50,have a Fosters and relax....fear not marra, good times just around the corner.

You've got your seasons mixed up, mate. I believe it is going to get down to 4 degrees here tonight.

Now is the winter of our discontent.

 

[Billy Batts]

Few otr hinting might be something happening today, probably a load of bollocks mind.

 

[TopCat.]

Thankfully I am holiday, so more relaxed than most. Heading home tomorrow evening mind, and if we ain’t appointed someone by the weekend I’ll feed a tad more angst.

another week and I’ll get concerned we can’t prep fully for the season ahead.

but there’s **** all I can do about it, so no point in stressing.

anyway, back down the beach today

I think the weekend is optimistic - generally things start leaking out 24-48 hours before an appointment. If we don't hear something today I reckon it will be next week...

 

[Calmac]

Few otr hinting might be something happening today, probably a load of bollocks mind.

Do you mind?......I've got too much imagination and now can't get out of my head an image of bollocks being served up.
Sweetmeats?..

or is it sweet breads?

 

[TopCat.]

probably a load of bollocks mind.

Correct

 

[LD19SAFC]

Genuinely getting concerned that they're going to use it to sugar coat some horrible news.

I've been very defensive of KLD and even Speakman to some extent, but I'm getting to the point now where I feel this is dragging.

But I suppose Burnley haven't got anyone yet, neither have Leicester. Don't know what to think, to be honest.

They’ve both just lost their manager. Us on the other hand…

 

[Nads]

Genuinely getting concerned that they're going to use it to sugar coat some horrible news.

I've been very defensive of KLD and even Speakman to some extent, but I'm getting to the point now where I feel this is dragging.

But I suppose Burnley haven't got anyone yet, neither have Leicester. Don't know what to think, to be honest.

Aye they e had a few days/weeks.

We’ve had close to 4 month.

Frustrating.

 

[Smug in Boots]

And therein lies the problem. It must be incredibly difficult to succession plan in this business,there are so many short term variables. The days of seamless transfer from Shankly to Paisley to ***an....or Greenwood to Lyall.... with no change in philosophy or methodology are long gone in the modern world. I wouldn't mind betting Man City were thinking Pep to Arteta,no problem,....only to get undone.
It's up to the club to establish the philosophy and recruit the people to enact it. Unfortunately though,we could have a list as long as your arm of potential appointments as and when it becomes necessary,but that list could evaporate within weeks as all the other factors come into play.
I think that's what happened to us in the aftermath of Beale leaving. Targets we may have had as available,suddenly became unavailable...or at least unavailable for the time being.... and we've had to redraw the list,make fresh approaches and be patient...( something us fans don't really understand!)
In the face of the ever increasing barrage of criticism towards KS and the Board,it may be necessary for us to reflect that it might not be quite as easy as we think it is.

It doesn't benefit anyone to become fixated on things in football, it's too volatile.

'Succession planning' falls into the same category as 'The Model' or 'age/wage limits' imo.

They can all change in minutes and the policy is written on paper, not carved in stone.

Perhaps Leicester had an idea their manager might leave so had earmarked Kompany to replace him.

Perhaps Sunderland had Still lined up or perhaps it was Cooper who's now been contacted by Burnley.

I was recently told, by someone being serious, that we're talking to Jonny Evans ...

... he didn't say why, and didn't actually know tbh.

I didn't post it because there's enough rumours flying around but, who knows, all the big clubs seem little better than us with their planning.

Chelsea and Spurs seem absolutely chaotic while Man Utd are serial chancers when it comes to managers.

And let's not get into Birmingham

 

[alcoauth]

We've still a lot of time before the lads are back and it's more important to make the correct appointment rather than one for the sake of appeasing some of our support, for all we know everything is sewn up and the announcement is set to take place two week from now.

 

[Culinary]

When did they lose their coach ?

They announced De Zerbi leaving 10 days or so before the end of their season. Why?