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And is it the same number as Sunderland? Specifically since Beale left? Yes of course some members of staff being retained isn’t unusual, but promoting one for such a long period and watch him struggle, certainly will be at the “top European clubs”.
In some cases it is the same number yes, in some cases its more. Dodds having temporarily stepped into the head coach role has nothing to do with his ability to do with the role he was employed for originally.
 
Just had a read through l'Équipe, before I start thinking about work, and there's nothing about Still, Lens or his agent ...

... I wonder how the supporters are feeling about their club being placed in the hands of a 31yo who left Reims in difficult circumstances.

This season is a probably a bit of a free hit for whoever takes over. They didn’t have a great league campaign and they’re going to playing in Iceland and the Faroe Islands on Thursday nights. Be difficult NOT to have a better season than this one tbf
 
In some cases it is the same number yes, in some cases its more. Dodds having temporarily stepped into the head coach role has nothing to do with his ability to do with the role he was employed for originally.
Good his role originally wasnt involved in first team matters, merely individual players development. He’s had such a meteoric rise from what he was employed to do. It’s totally different to what he is accustomed to.
 
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Just to add to this, Still would've been more of a continuation of the defensive, out of possession focused style we've played since Mowbray left.

Rosenior looks to dominate possession, like Martin and Maresca, which leads to being good defensively as you can't concede if you have the ball.

If you don't like possession football that is fine but don't make stupid statements which are just so uneducated. Makes me cringe sometimes how uneducated this fanbase is.
One small point, the ignorance on anything outside their own club is definitely not exclusive to our fanbase.

I don’t think Sunderland fans are any worse or better than most for it.
 
They had a good defensive record because they sat back all game and played on the counter. Look at their home record, more draws than any other team in the league and less wins than us. Lost count of how many 0-0s and 1-1s they had it seemed to be every week at one stage of the season. Works away from home but when you’re at home and you’re meant to take the game to your opponent they fell flat time and time again.

Edit - sorry I should’ve said they lost less games rather than having a good defensive record because they still conceded a fair amount of goals.
Hull, under Rosenior, were most definitely not a counter attacking side!!
 
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Interesting write up on Roseniors tactics while at Hull for anyone interested

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/h...l-city-tactical-analysis-tactics-scout-report
This article makes an important point. When Rosenior took over, Hull weren't doing particularly well and his first move was to make them hard to beat. This is what any manager will do when going into a club under those circumstances. He did that while remaining loyal to his commitment to playing through the thirds. That's not a particularly easy thing to do- it's much easier to do that by going direct.

When you go in and try to make a team hard to beat, you're not necessarily going to stick to your preferred tendencies. Pragmatism dictates that. So we possibly haven't got a fully rounded picture of Rosenior from his time at Hull. But the fact that he combined an attempt to solidify them defensively with a commitment to playing out from the back is a big plus in his favour.
 
One small point, the ignorance on anything outside their own club is definitely not exclusive to our fanbase.

I don’t think Sunderland fans are any worse or better than most for it.
Sad indictment on the state of football fandom. It's okay to not know about other teams or different individuals within football but if you know nothing, say nothing. Or do research and then form educated opinions. Don't make unsubstantiated statements.
 
People seem to be saying we need to get rid of Dodds and Proctor and 'go in a different direction'.

WTF does that actually mean.

The direction is set out by the owner, who's pumping in his own money, and the board ...

... do people really believe the clubs coaches read the memo, snigger to each other and do wtf they like.

They're coaches ffs, the owner wants the PL and would crush those two like bugs if he thought they were restricting our chances imo.
Sorry like but people are allowed to want rid of them after the stinker of a season we’ve just had. What’s wrong with wanting to change the whole coaching team ffs?
 
Just had a read through l'Équipe, before I start thinking about work, and there's nothing about Still, Lens or his agent ...

... I wonder how the supporters are feeling about their club being placed in the hands of a 31yo who left Reims in difficult circumstances.
Still isn’t the be all and end all. I’d welcome him and back him but most vouching for him ahead of others are fantasists. Failing to nail the long term target yet is a bit more problematic for me than the name Will Stiil personally speaking.
 
Just had a look on the hull board, scan read the thread about Rosenior leaving and the bulk of them were gutted, given they watched his team week in week out they’re probably better placed to judge him than us, no idea if it is going to be him but I’d be relaxed about it if it was
 
Sorry like but people are allowed to want rid of them after the stinker of a season we’ve just had. What’s wrong with wanting to change the whole coaching team ffs?

You can want whatever you like mate, it's irrelevant.

Like it or not, moaning on a chat forum won't change a thing.

And what if you're wrong about Dodds and Proctor as coaches. they might be better than the ones a new manager might have chosen.
 
Sad indictment on the state of football fandom. It's okay to not know about other teams or different individuals within football but if you know nothing, say nothing. Or do research and then form educated opinions. Don't make unsubstantiated statements.
Think that applies to everything nowadays, not just football.

Empty vessels make the most noise.
 
Hull, under Rosenior, were most definitely not a counter attacking side!!

Away from home they were. At home they just passed around at the back and couldn’t break teams down. I’d love to see the difference in stats of both their home and away fixtures I bet it’s astronomical.
 
13th at Home, 5th away, although only 4 points in it

Meant more the data side of things. Seemed to have loads of possession at home in games they couldn’t get over the line but they were a team who didn’t have lots of shots or seem to create too much before scoring and away from home seemed to work well. The opposite of us really.
 
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