Name change discussion

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This is my take on the reasons for the name change.
Something has to be done to bring investment in.
Hull City Association Football Club does not roll of the tongue easily.
A shortened version of the name is used already Hull City.
Take out the City and there is an opportunity to have a dig at Hull City Council.
Tigers are a strong marketing brand image.
The BRAND Hull Tigers is shorter than Hull City Association Football Club.
Investment may come from a business that wants to use the PL and a strong brand image.

Now this is just a thought. What happens if Assem Allam says to a Mayalisian billionaire, hey look Vince, fancy selling your club and buying mine, it's called Hull Tigers, he does have more chance doesn't he? Than if we stayed the same.

So in the end, the chances are that we will end up being owned by some bloke with money who likes Hull Tigers anyway.

If the FA agrees that is. I hope it see's sense and says no. But then no one has come up with any alternative, so forget supporters trust and think big to save the name.

"The Tigers" rolls even better and has the benefit of local support and tradition.

ANY argument in favour of Hull Tigers works far, far better as Hull City, The Tigers.
 
This is my take on the reasons for the name change.
Something has to be done to bring investment in.
Hull City Association Football Club does not roll of the tongue easily.
A shortened version of the name is used already Hull City.
Take out the City and there is an opportunity to have a dig at Hull City Council.
Tigers are a strong marketing brand image.
The BRAND Hull Tigers is shorter than Hull City Association Football Club.
Investment may come from a business that wants to use the PL and a strong brand image.

Now this is just a thought. What happens if Assem Allam says to a Mayalisian billionaire, hey look Vince, fancy selling your club and buying mine, it's called Hull Tigers, he does have more chance doesn't he? Than if we stayed the same.

So in the end, the chances are that we will end up being owned by some bloke with money who likes Hull Tigers anyway.

If the FA agrees that is. I hope it see's sense and says no. But then no one has come up with any alternative, so forget supporters trust and think big to save the name.

Or, just as likely, Vincent says to his mates I know a football club that may be going cheap, just wait till the end of the season and see how desperate he is to sell. By the way there's very little external debt it will be just negotiating how much of his loans he's prepared to write off.
 
#NoToHullTigers ‏@NoToHullTigers 40 mins
We don't have a shedload of money or big important friends behind us like Dr Allam - but what we have is far more important: you - the fans.

Django Cortese ‏@DjangoCortese 28 mins
@NoToHullTigers Careful, you're at risk of starting to sound Anti-Allam, and that is not what were about! No to the namechange, yes to Allam


I think people may have a point regarding CTWD. I simply stated that the tweet could have been construed as being Anti-Allam which given that the campaign has insisted time and time again that they are not Anti Allam, I thought came across a bit out of Character. My tweet resulted in them unfollowing me with no response.

Much like I received from Dr. Allam, I think I received the "It's my way of thinking or the highway" behaviour from a campaign group supposedly backing me up.

Think i'll just oppose it in my own way then. Cheers!
 
As much as I hate the idea of our name change I think the decision should be made sooner rather than later. At least we know where we stand then. If the actions from CTWD and other opposing fans hasn't done anything to sway the FA's decision then I doubt very much that a further 3 months will do anything.
 
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"The Tigers" rolls even better and has the benefit of local support and tradition.

ANY argument in favour of Hull Tigers works far, far better as Hull City, The Tigers.

I put forward that building a brand on a team known as "The Tigers" was far stronger. Hull City "The Tigers". With Hull City as the playing name and a big concentration as "The Tigers". But it was rejected by members of CTWD who
stated that AFC had to remain. I still believe that if the application for a ladies team had not been made, we could have saved Hull City with a compromise about the dropping of AFC.
Mind you the club will more than likely go to a middle eastern owner rather than Far East. Which is a lot better than any Nigerian owning the club. (Do your homework before calling me racist)
 
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I put forward that building a brand on a team known as "The Tigers" was far stronger. Hull City "The Tigers". With Hull City as the playing name and a big concentration as "The Tigers". But it was rejected by members of CTWD who stated that AFC had to remain.

We've always stated that the fact that we can already be marketed as The Tigers, made the name change absolutely unnecessary, that remains the case.
 
As much as I hate the idea of our name change I think the decision should be made sooner rather than later. At least we know where we stand then. If the actions from CTWD and other opposing fans hasn't done anything to sway the FA's decision then I doubt very much that a further 3 months will do anything.

The FA haven't yet consulted with all the parties concerned, they're obviously not going to vote until they have done so.
 
But you will not accept just Hull City.

That's a complete red herring, our formal name is Hull City AFC, it's the name that would appear on the Champions League trophy once we win it, but it's not normally used, nor is anyone proposing that it should be.

It's our Sunday best name and is merely used as a distraction,it was never used as our playing name.
 
#NoToHullTigers ‏@NoToHullTigers 40 mins
We don't have a shedload of money or big important friends behind us like Dr Allam - but what we have is far more important: you - the fans.

Django Cortese ‏@DjangoCortese 28 mins
@NoToHullTigers Careful, you're at risk of starting to sound Anti-Allam, and that is not what were about! No to the namechange, yes to Allam


I think people may have a point regarding CTWD. I simply stated that the tweet could have been construed as being Anti-Allam which given that the campaign has insisted time and time again that they are not Anti Allam, I thought came across a bit out of Character. My tweet resulted in them unfollowing me with no response.

Much like I received from Dr. Allam, I think I received the "It's my way of thinking or the highway" behaviour from a campaign group supposedly backing me up.

Think i'll just oppose it in my own way then. Cheers!

Just gave you a follow mate. I'm in the same boat. Yesterday was the first time I didn't join in singing "City til I die" because I'm feeling increasingly alienated by the group.
 
Every club is AFC, yet there are only us, Sunderland and Swansea (in the PL) that have it on their club crest/ badges and only AFC Bournemouth, AFC Wimbledon and Newport County in the football league.

Why is the AFC so important when there are only 6 out of the 92 clubs have it on their crest? It's not tradition or heritage as everyone else has dropped it, if it was that important the FA would insist that they needed to show it on their crest as they're members of the FA, therefore, if the FA aren't bothered what difference will it make?
 
Just gave you a follow mate. I'm in the same boat. Yesterday was the first time I didn't join in singing "City til I die" because I'm feeling increasingly alienated by the group.

You seem to be over complicating things for the sake of it.

CTWD campaign says "no to hull Tigers." That's it.

If you'd rather be Hull City, the campaign speaks for you because that's all it says.
 
Every club is AFC, yet there are only us, Sunderland and Swansea (in the PL) that have it on their club crest/ badges and only AFC Bournemouth, AFC Wimbledon and Newport County in the football league.

Why is the AFC so important when there are only 6 out of the 92 clubs have it on their crest? It's not tradition or heritage as everyone else has dropped it, if it was that important the FA would insist that they needed to show it on their crest as they're members of the FA, therefore, if the FA aren't bothered what difference will it make?

The AFC is irrelevant. Its is our registered name only. Our playing name is Hull City, not Hull City AFC. We are already Hull City. The application is to change the playing name from Hull City to Hull Tigers.

Its a shame but a simple fact. Assem Allam has applied to make our playing name longer not shorter.
 
Every club is AFC, yet there are only us, Sunderland and Swansea (in the PL) that have it on their club crest/ badges and only AFC Bournemouth, AFC Wimbledon and Newport County in the football league.

Why is the AFC so important when there are only 6 out of the 92 clubs have it on their crest? It's not tradition or heritage as everyone else has dropped it, if it was that important the FA would insist that they needed to show it on their crest as they're members of the FA, therefore, if the FA aren't bothered what difference will it make?

Stan Collymore expressed it perfectly. The importance of AFC is to distinguish ourselves in a predominantly Rugby City. Hull FC is Rugby, Hull City AFC is football. It's the Association Football Club that differentiates ourselves.

Although I agree with Stan, I would probably compromise and drop the AFC. I have never said Hull City AFC when I was asked who I support, It's always been Hull City.