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MP saddened by cup fallout

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  1. SAINTDON13

    SAINTDON13 Well-Known Member

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    When you look at our FA Cup Squads used this Season, they are pretty consistent, it is debateable whether they were the best available.

    BURNLEY YEOVIL SUNDERLAND

    Kelvin Davis Kelvin Davis Kelvin Davis
    Nathaniel Clyne Nathaniel Clyne Nathaniel Clyne
    Maya Yoshida Maya Yoshida Maya Yoshida
    Morgan Schneiderlin Morgan Schneiderlin Victor Wanyama
    Rickie Lambert Jay Rodriguez Rickie Lambert
    James Ward-Prowse James Ward-Prowse James Ward-Prowse
    Steven Davis Jack Cork Steven Davis
    Gaston Ramirez Adam Lallana Adam Lallana
    Jack Cork Guly Do Prado Guly Do Prado
    Luke Shaw Luke Shaw Luke Shaw
    Jos Hooiveld Jos Hooiveld Jos Hooiveld


    SUBSTITUTES
    Paulo Gazzaniga Paulo Gazzaniga Paulo Gazzaniga
    Jose Fonte Jose Fonte Jose Fonte
    Jay Rodriguez Steven Davis Jay Rodriguez
    Adam Lallana Lloyd Isgrove Morgan Schneiderlin
    Calum Chambers Calum Chambers Calum Chambers
    Harrison Reed Harrison Reed Jack Cork
    Sam Gallagher Sam Gallagher Sam McQueen
     
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  2. AL.

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    Pochettino didn't pick our strongest side, but he picked a side 'strong enough' to win that game, without a doubt. He wanted to win, as he is the manager, and nobody can honestly say he 'looked uninterested' or he 'didn't care'. Of course he cares. Like he said in his interview with Blackmore today, nobody moaned about young Gallagher playing in the Premier League, and accused him of disrespecting the division. He picks a team he believes can win, whilst also giving people opportunities. They are all professionals, and can do a job. Unfortunately, they had an off day, and we lost. The end. No point in reminding ourselves about it.
     
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  3. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    I really doubt poch would willingly put out a team he thought would struggle against Sunderland when he has a team he knows would beat them and a week between games. I think he underestimated them. And the team played poorly.
     
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  4. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Of course I can. It is my view that he looked uninterested. I might be mistaken but there's nothing dishonest about it.
     
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  5. CBK

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    Picking Guly ahead of your leading scorer kills any defence about "taking the game seriously"
     
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  6. CBK

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    The "anger" was brought upon Pochettino, by Pochettino. Fans could see past his flimsy reasoning for the team selection last week and those excuses reeled off today have just compounded the issue.

    Nothing wrong with fans being "angry" about an awful defeat. Nothing wrong with venting that "anger" on an internet message board. Nothing wrong with the manager having to face some awkward questions.

    Some fans seem to think that unless you lick every single crevice of everyone at the football club, on a daily basis, that you are a lesser supporter and the whole club will fall to pieces as a result.
     
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  7. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    Rodriguez was ill. Suddenly and inexplicably ill. Luckily it was a short term thing, as he appears to be fine for West Ham, thank god.
     
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  8. fatletiss

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    I admire your ability to decifer effort from performance.
     
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  9. CBK

    CBK Well-Known Member

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    Well that explains it. Boruc ill as well I presume. Everyone's ill. It's a goddam 90minute isolated epidemic!!!!!
     
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  10. fatletiss

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    Yes it is. I was pissed off he gave the ball away more times than I've seen a saints player this year. Pratt. Shouldn't have picked himself. 100% is quite a lot really.
     
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  11. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Should have seen my face Tom. I want happy, but maybe anger is dealt with differently by some :)
     
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  12. fatletiss

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    Or likely, depending where he coin lands
     
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    I just can't see the point in getting angry at one defeat. What was disappointing, and disappointment is as far as I'll go, is that - on paper - MP picked a better team than they did and we still lost.
     
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  14. fatletiss

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    Perhaps he wasn't trained as well for his job as you and all the people you know :)
     
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  15. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    We have a losable game away to shammers and a losable game at home to Liverpool. Can't wait to be on here for he next couple of weeks.
     
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  16. pass the football

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    Yes, how do you explain that? Didn't a wise man once say that hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard?


    I'm sure we'll see a purely coincidental upturn in competence.
     
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  17. Piebacca

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    Do you actually know what I do?
     
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  18. Osvaldorama

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    It's not the defeat that's disappointing. As a lifelong saints fan I can obviously live with those. It's the going down without a fight. If our first 11 had lost that game, I would be saying fair play, we went for it and had a bad day at the office.
    But it was a crap team selection which undermined us before the game had even started so I am annoyed that we have gone out of the FA cup when a load of ****e teams are still in it. We had a genuine chance to go to wembley. I don't see how anyone can defend MP on this. He has done barely anything wrong since he came in, but Saturday was a big error of judgement.
    And whoever quoted me as pointing out that JWP wasn't great, you're putting words in my mouth. I thought he did Ok, but he's 19 and barely played at CM for us at this level. My opinion is that Wanyama is massively rusty, the two shouldn't have been played at the same time. One or the other. I said it as soon as I saw the team sheet.

    May as well close the saints board on not606 if we can't have a discussion about positives and negatives
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I do remember you implying you've never had a bad day at work because otherwise people die.
     
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  20. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I do kind of agree with you Os, but then our manager is also young and relatively inexperienced too. I think he should be given the opportunity to learn from perceived mistakes as well.
     
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