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Mason Does One

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by lewisc29, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Summerof69

    Summerof69 Well-Known Member

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    Very sad but it always seemed like the only sensible outcome. Wish him well in whatever he does but it would be nice to see him remain in the game, if that’s what he wants to do.
     
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  2. Asterix

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    Have you seen the photograph?
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I watched it happen (as anyone can still do), it was a clash of heads, as happens in games every weekend, this one just had disastrous consequences...

     
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  4. Evington

    Evington Well-Known Member

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    calm down, calm down
     
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  5. Quill

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    Serving time <laugh>

    You make it sound like Cahill did it on purpose.
     
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  6. PLT

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    It's one of those things where footballs rules make no sense and lack clarity. I mean it's clearly a dangerous thing when two people go for headers together, but it'll almost never be given as a foul and your manager and fans wouldn't be happy if you ever pulled out of one to avoid a clash of heads. We just kind of expect everything to play out OK.
     
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  7. Asterix

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    Google the incident and look at the stills. Where the ball is, and where Cahill's head is.
     
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  8. Qatartiger Cambridgetiger

    Qatartiger Cambridgetiger Well-Known Member

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    How sad, not just for him and his family. Also sad for football. Wishing you all the best in what ever you decide to do Ryan. Hull City will miss you.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I've seen the stills, they obviously don't show what happened as well as the video of the whole incident and it was just an accident.
     
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  10. Asterix

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    If you were stood in the dock, and the prosecution produced the still I have seen, the judge would do more than ****ing face palm.

    On purpose? Yes, I believe it was.
     
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  11. spesupersydera

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    I've seen this clip several times and still think Cahill was reckless in his challenge, reckless but, I don't believe malicious: whenever I've heard him speak, or read anything attributed to him I've never got the impression of him being a malicious character - that being the case, I can imagine him being distraught at being responsible for finishing someone's career.
     
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  12. Quill

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    Oh dear.

    If you think Cahill purposely set out to hurt Mason, you're a ****ing moron, plain and simple.
     
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  13. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree.

    Reckless - yes. I’ve said before that it’s hard to know where Cahill was going to head the ball if he made contact with it.

    Deliberate - 100% no.
     
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  14. PLT

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    I don't think it really matters. If he didn't go up to win the header or at least disrupt Mason from being free to head it clear then he's not done his job.

    The problem is the game of football, which encourages the contested heading of the ball, inevitably leading to skull-on-skull collisions.
     
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  15. Asterix

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    **** off silly ****. He has history.
     
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  16. Quill

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    What, a history of head clashes when going for the ball in the air?

    Of course he does, he's a ****ING DEFENDER.
     
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  17. RichardG

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    This. I think Cahill should have seen red. If you go in that late with your feet and injure someone that badly you'll usually see red. Just because he did it with his head should make no difference. But I can see nothing to suggest it was deliberate.

    As for facing criminal procedures and the like, just no. Yes, if you produced those shots out of context in a courtroom it might result in a conviction. As would many challenges. In the context of a football match this was a player making a rubbish attempt to do something he does dozens of times a game - win the ball with his head. He got it wrong, catastrophically so. But proving intent to injure would be nigh on impossible, I'd imagine.
     
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  18. BrAdY

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    cahills a ****, just like if he'd snapped ryans leg
    he probably didn't have any ill intention to it, but he's a stupid **** though
    hope he comps ryan
     
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  19. Asterix

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    We will disagree on the intent. Appreciate the reasoned reply without recourse to face palms or calling me a moron
     
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  20. Fez

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    Some nonsense on here. Not reckless, just poor skill and timing, as happens to all players. An accident, nothing more.

    Right decision to retire, all the very best to him and his family; it’s been a testing time for all of them.
     
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